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Early google represented "the good guys" against the bully Microsoft. Back then, they created Google Talk which rivaled MSN. Android started as a "open source

Early google represented "the good guys" against the bully Microsoft. Back then, they created Google Talk which rivaled MSN. Android started as a "open source mobile Linux" which rivaled Windows Phone. People trusted Google as the good guys open source powered company and, when it got big enough, it screwed everyone over. And that disappointment and outrage is still there

tourist2d 4y ago
> when it got big enough, it screwed everyone over How did it screw everyone over? Almost all my non tech friends adore most Google products.
dymk 4y ago
You may feel screwed over, meanwhile a billion people happily chug away on Google, GMail, and YouTube.
- trasz 4y ago
  Inferior products can still be popular, how surprising. Seriously though, the only actually valuable thing Google has at this point is its market share.
  - dymk 4y ago
    Given it's an inferior product, weird how nobody's come and made something better and eaten Google's lunch, isn't it?
    - trasz 4y ago
      Network effect; can’t really compete until the current monopoly is solved. Also it’s disputable whether a business model based on invading peoples privacy should be legal.
      - dymk 4y ago
        What does Google have a monopoly over? (Hint: nothing)
        trasz 4y ago
        Every market it's still in, from search to mail. Google can't compete on markets it doesn't already have monopoly; see... well, see the vast majority of its products.
herbst 4y ago
Ok they broke Google Talk however they actually made Linux mainstream, something no one else managed on this level before.
- rawoke083600 4y ago
  lol what ? I'd give Google a lot of credit for a lot of stuff, including all their Linux contribution to the kernel. But stating "Google made Linux mainstream" ? I can't see how ? I'd wager orgs like Ubuntu had a lot more todo with making "Linux mainstream".
  - herbst 4y ago
    Linux is now a majority of active devices on any website statistic. It's not unusual to have more Android users on any given day than windows, Mac and Linux together. How is that not mainstream?

tourist2d 4y ago

> when it got big enough, it screwed everyone over How did it screw everyone over? Almost all my non tech friends adore most Google products.

dymk 4y ago

You may feel screwed over, meanwhile a billion people happily chug away on Google, GMail, and YouTube.

trasz 4y ago
Inferior products can still be popular, how surprising. Seriously though, the only actually valuable thing Google has at this point is its market share.
- dymk 4y ago
  Given it's an inferior product, weird how nobody's come and made something better and eaten Google's lunch, isn't it?
  - trasz 4y ago
    Network effect; can’t really compete until the current monopoly is solved. Also it’s disputable whether a business model based on invading peoples privacy should be legal.
    - dymk 4y ago
      What does Google have a monopoly over? (Hint: nothing)
      - trasz 4y ago
        Every market it's still in, from search to mail. Google can't compete on markets it doesn't already have monopoly; see... well, see the vast majority of its products.

herbst 4y ago

Ok they broke Google Talk however they actually made Linux mainstream, something no one else managed on this level before.

rawoke083600 4y ago
lol what ? I'd give Google a lot of credit for a lot of stuff, including all their Linux contribution to the kernel. But stating "Google made Linux mainstream" ? I can't see how ? I'd wager orgs like Ubuntu had a lot more todo with making "Linux mainstream".
- herbst 4y ago
  Linux is now a majority of active devices on any website statistic. It's not unusual to have more Android users on any given day than windows, Mac and Linux together. How is that not mainstream?