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Patching is good but not reliable enough. Is there anything for Android similar to Qubes-OS?

by petra 4y ago

codethief 4y ago
GrapheneOS? Been using it for almost a year and I never want to go back.
- gzer0 4y ago
  Which phone do you recommend to load GrapheneOS on? Every time I try, I end up with a phone that is unable to unlock the OEM bootloader; even if the phone is from the factory
  - cowtools 4y ago
    GrapheneOS only supports the google "pixel" line of phones (probably because they support the bootloader-locking by user, and ship with most stock android/AOSP support): https://grapheneos.org/faq#supported-devices https://grapheneos.org/faq#supported-devices I'm running it on a pixel-4a (google-sunfish) and it works fine. You may want to pay close attention to the parts where it tells you how to lock/unlock the bootloader: https://grapheneos.org/install/cli#enabling-oem-unlocking https://grapheneos.org/install/cli#enabling-oem-unlocking https://grapheneos.org/install/cli#disabling-oem-unlocking https://grapheneos.org/install/cli#disabling-oem-unlocking CalyxOS also supports older models like the pixel 3, albeit with lower standards for security: https://calyxos.org/install/ https://calyxos.org/install/ Additionally there's AOSP distros like LineageOS that support many devices, but with much lower security standards: https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/ https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/
  - codethief 4y ago
    I have a Pixel 5. You might want to look at https://grapheneos.org/faq#recommended-devices https://grapheneos.org/faq#recommended-devices
normaler 4y ago
Not really comparable to Qubes-OS technically, but there is graphenos.
unintendedcons 4y ago
GrapheneOS is the best available option right now. I struggle with it when I want to do anything interesting. Its explicitly not made for devs. Its locked down for users. That said, if you need a smartphone, its the best available phone OS today.
- h4waii 4y ago
  Completely depends what you're looking to do. I used my Pixel 5 running GrapheneOS to test and release an app I have in the Play Store. I run a small business from it (email, e-commerce, fulfilling orders, etc) I run Termux and full fat Linux apps on it. I can use git and GitHub on it. I have an SSH client I use with WireGuard to access my home network. I can control my 3d printer with it. Not sure what else "a dev" needs to do with their device, but GrapheneOS provides everything I need, and I like to call myself a developer.
GekkePrutser 4y ago
I don't think there's any Android hardware with enough oomph to do what QubesOS does (having multiple virtual machines for real separation). There's an option for a work profile which I use to separate my stuff but it's more like a different Linux user than a VM. And you can have only one, sadly.

Patching is good but not reliable enough. Is there anything for Android similar to Qubes-OS?

by petra 4y ago

Patching is good but not reliable enough. Is there anything for Android similar to Qubes-OS?

codethief 4y ago

GrapheneOS? Been using it for almost a year and I never want to go back.

gzer0 4y ago
Which phone do you recommend to load GrapheneOS on? Every time I try, I end up with a phone that is unable to unlock the OEM bootloader; even if the phone is from the factory
- cowtools 4y ago
  GrapheneOS only supports the google "pixel" line of phones (probably because they support the bootloader-locking by user, and ship with most stock android/AOSP support): https://grapheneos.org/faq#supported-devices https://grapheneos.org/faq#supported-devices I'm running it on a pixel-4a (google-sunfish) and it works fine. You may want to pay close attention to the parts where it tells you how to lock/unlock the bootloader: https://grapheneos.org/install/cli#enabling-oem-unlocking https://grapheneos.org/install/cli#enabling-oem-unlocking https://grapheneos.org/install/cli#disabling-oem-unlocking https://grapheneos.org/install/cli#disabling-oem-unlocking CalyxOS also supports older models like the pixel 3, albeit with lower standards for security: https://calyxos.org/install/ https://calyxos.org/install/ Additionally there's AOSP distros like LineageOS that support many devices, but with much lower security standards: https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/ https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/
- codethief 4y ago
  I have a Pixel 5. You might want to look at https://grapheneos.org/faq#recommended-devices https://grapheneos.org/faq#recommended-devices

normaler 4y ago

Not really comparable to Qubes-OS technically, but there is graphenos.

unintendedcons 4y ago

GrapheneOS is the best available option right now. I struggle with it when I want to do anything interesting. Its explicitly not made for devs. Its locked down for users. That said, if you need a smartphone, its the best available phone OS today.

h4waii 4y ago
Completely depends what you're looking to do. I used my Pixel 5 running GrapheneOS to test and release an app I have in the Play Store. I run a small business from it (email, e-commerce, fulfilling orders, etc) I run Termux and full fat Linux apps on it. I can use git and GitHub on it. I have an SSH client I use with WireGuard to access my home network. I can control my 3d printer with it. Not sure what else "a dev" needs to do with their device, but GrapheneOS provides everything I need, and I like to call myself a developer.

GekkePrutser 4y ago

I don't think there's any Android hardware with enough oomph to do what QubesOS does (having multiple virtual machines for real separation). There's an option for a work profile which I use to separate my stuff but it's more like a different Linux user than a VM. And you can have only one, sadly.