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> Most Androids get slowly patched, if at all. This is changing, and picking the right manufacturer can make all the difference.
by tragictrash 4y ago
> Most Androids get slowly patched, if at all.
This is changing, and picking the right manufacturer can make all the difference.
- petra 4y agoPatching is good but not reliable enough. Is there anything for Android similar to Qubes-OS?
- codethief 4y agoGrapheneOS? Been using it for almost a year and I never want to go back.
- gzer0 4y agoWhich phone do you recommend to load GrapheneOS on? Every time I try, I end up with a phone that is unable to unlock the OEM bootloader; even if the phone is from the factory
- cowtools 4y agoGrapheneOS only supports the google "pixel" line of phones (probably because they support the bootloader-locking by user, and ship with most stock android/AOSP support): https://grapheneos.org/faq#supported-devices https://grapheneos.org/faq#supported-devices I'm running it on a pixel-4a (google-sunfish) and it works fine. You may want to pay close attention to the parts where it tells you how to lock/unlock the bootloader: https://grapheneos.org/install/cli#enabling-oem-unlocking https://grapheneos.org/install/cli#enabling-oem-unlocking https://grapheneos.org/install/cli#disabling-oem-unlocking https://grapheneos.org/install/cli#disabling-oem-unlocking CalyxOS also supports older models like the pixel 3, albeit with lower standards for security: https://calyxos.org/install/ https://calyxos.org/install/ Additionally there's AOSP distros like LineageOS that support many devices, but with much lower security standards: https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/ https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/
- codethief 4y agoI have a Pixel 5. You might want to look at https://grapheneos.org/faq#recommended-devices https://grapheneos.org/faq#recommended-devices
- normaler 4y agoNot really comparable to Qubes-OS technically, but there is graphenos.
- unintendedcons 4y agoGrapheneOS is the best available option right now. I struggle with it when I want to do anything interesting. Its explicitly not made for devs. Its locked down for users. That said, if you need a smartphone, its the best available phone OS today.
- h4waii 4y agoCompletely depends what you're looking to do. I used my Pixel 5 running GrapheneOS to test and release an app I have in the Play Store. I run a small business from it (email, e-commerce, fulfilling orders, etc) I run Termux and full fat Linux apps on it. I can use git and GitHub on it. I have an SSH client I use with WireGuard to access my home network. I can control my 3d printer with it. Not sure what else "a dev" needs to do with their device, but GrapheneOS provides everything I need, and I like to call myself a developer.
- GekkePrutser 4y agoI don't think there's any Android hardware with enough oomph to do what QubesOS does (having multiple virtual machines for real separation). There's an option for a work profile which I use to separate my stuff but it's more like a different Linux user than a VM. And you can have only one, sadly.
- steveBK123 4y agoAndroid being "just around the corner" of getting better on patches if you just pick the right manufacturer has been the story for what.. the last 5.. 10 years?
- tragictrash 4y agoIt's not around the corner, it's here and has been for years.
- happyopossum 4y agowhich manufacturer has been consistently patching all of their phones for the past 3+ years?
- GekkePrutser 4y agoSamsung? I get monthly updates on my phone
- tragictrash 4y agoSamsung and google
- strunz 4y agoAs a former Google Nexus user, I admire your naïveté
- walterbell 4y agoNokia, as part of Android ONE.
- kevin_thibedeau 4y agoI have one of these. Stuck on Android 10 and at some point a patch broke the speaker during phone calls so that the volume is too low. It works fine at any other time as does speakerphone so it's not a hardware issue.