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When social networks started taking off, in the spirit of the late 00s there was a push to create standards for distributed social networks so that personal web

by madrox 4y ago

When social networks started taking off, in the spirit of the late 00s there was a push to create standards for distributed social networks so that personal websites could replicate a lot of what social networks did. DiSo is one that comes to mind [1]. The fact was...people didn't care. It made building harder...not easier. I think it's inevitable. Over time, adoption trends towards easy UX, and open standards almost by their nature lag behind silos in their ability to optimize experience. [1] https://diso-project.org/ https://diso-project.org/

guestbest 4y ago
Wordpress had a standard called FOAF for linking websites. FOAF - Friend Of A Friend (XML based). I don’t know if it is used anymore
- themadryaner 4y ago
  There's been a big push to develop modern standards in the IndieWeb community [0]. There are two important standards: - WebMention, a W3C standard that is basically the equivalent of @ing someone on Twitter [1]. It is simply an http request to a discoverable endpoint with two pieces of data: the webpage being mentioned, and the webpage mentioning it. WordPress had a similar standard called Pingback and websites supporting WebMention often support both for backwards compatibility. - microformats2, an ad-hoc standard for adding metadata to webpages, meant especially for providing metadata for web mentions [2]. For instance, you can specify that the mention is a "like", "reply", or "reblog", and set the author name and avatar. Independent websites that add support for this can then parse the WebMention to create a comment section and like counter and readers can follow the links to other blogs that talk about the blog post they just read. There are a decent number of personal sites that already support this, like those mentioned in [3]. With enough adapters, it might build the network effects necessary to become a viable social media alternative. Right now though, those in the network are predominantly tech oriented since there isn't a ton of third party support. [0]: https://indieweb.org/ https://indieweb.org/ [1]: https://www.w3.org/TR/webmention/ https://www.w3.org/TR/webmention/ [2]: http://microformats.org/ http://microformats.org/ [3]: https://indieweb.org/Webmention#IndieWeb_Examples https://indieweb.org/Webmention#IndieWeb_Examples
  - sen 4y ago
    Pingbacks are so helpful if you’re a blogger of any kind. I manage the blog for a family member who’s an author, and the huge a blog to share thoughts with the readers of their books. Pingbacks let’s them see where their blog posts are being discussed, go answer questions, and interact with the community in a really personal way (on top of the comment systems that are also used extensively). It might’ve lost popularity over the years but it amazed me that there’s still entire micro-communities of authors/fans doing this. Their own little social networks, all self hosted and self managed through blogs and comments/Pingbacks.
EddieDante 4y ago
There's also IndieWeb, but I decided it wasn't my time because I wanted my own website, not a web application that pretended to be a website.

by madrox 4y ago

guestbest 4y ago

Wordpress had a standard called FOAF for linking websites. FOAF - Friend Of A Friend (XML based). I don’t know if it is used anymore

themadryaner 4y ago
There's been a big push to develop modern standards in the IndieWeb community [0]. There are two important standards: - WebMention, a W3C standard that is basically the equivalent of @ing someone on Twitter [1]. It is simply an http request to a discoverable endpoint with two pieces of data: the webpage being mentioned, and the webpage mentioning it. WordPress had a similar standard called Pingback and websites supporting WebMention often support both for backwards compatibility. - microformats2, an ad-hoc standard for adding metadata to webpages, meant especially for providing metadata for web mentions [2]. For instance, you can specify that the mention is a "like", "reply", or "reblog", and set the author name and avatar. Independent websites that add support for this can then parse the WebMention to create a comment section and like counter and readers can follow the links to other blogs that talk about the blog post they just read. There are a decent number of personal sites that already support this, like those mentioned in [3]. With enough adapters, it might build the network effects necessary to become a viable social media alternative. Right now though, those in the network are predominantly tech oriented since there isn't a ton of third party support. [0]: https://indieweb.org/ https://indieweb.org/ [1]: https://www.w3.org/TR/webmention/ https://www.w3.org/TR/webmention/ [2]: http://microformats.org/ http://microformats.org/ [3]: https://indieweb.org/Webmention#IndieWeb_Examples https://indieweb.org/Webmention#IndieWeb_Examples
- sen 4y ago
  Pingbacks are so helpful if you’re a blogger of any kind. I manage the blog for a family member who’s an author, and the huge a blog to share thoughts with the readers of their books. Pingbacks let’s them see where their blog posts are being discussed, go answer questions, and interact with the community in a really personal way (on top of the comment systems that are also used extensively). It might’ve lost popularity over the years but it amazed me that there’s still entire micro-communities of authors/fans doing this. Their own little social networks, all self hosted and self managed through blogs and comments/Pingbacks.

EddieDante 4y ago

There's also IndieWeb, but I decided it wasn't my time because I wanted my own website, not a web application that pretended to be a website.