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This is false: "The fact that you can do some symbolic inference on paper does not mean that you will be more successful in life" IQ, more than any other psych

This is false: "The fact that you can do some symbolic inference on paper does not mean that you will be more successful in life" IQ, more than any other psychometric measure, predicts a wide variety of positive life outcomes including income, health, longevity, not being incarcerated, etc. Here [0] is a simplistic article about it, but there are endless studies and discussions about this, all with the same clear and uncontroversial result. [0] https://www.cnbc.com/2022/07/11/does-iq-determine-success-a-psychologist-weighs-in.html https://www.cnbc.com/2022/07/11/does-iq-determine-success-a-... Further reading: [1] https://emilkirkegaard.dk/en/2019/07/massive-danish-sibling-study-confirms-charles-murrays-findings/ https://emilkirkegaard.dk/en/2019/07/massive-danish-sibling-... [2] https://www.google.com/search?q=iq+predicts+success https://www.google.com/search?q=iq+predicts+success

8note 4y ago
IQ correlates quite heavily with practice time on multiple choice tests though. Who spends their time doing lots of tests? Rich kids. Being wealthy also predicts a wide variety of positive life out ones including income, health, longevity, and not being incarcerated
- jlawson 4y ago
  No, this issue of test practice being a confounder has been studied exhaustively for decades. There are many ways studies have been designed to determine its impact. For example: Examining the predictive value of IQ tests between siblings in the same household (who generally have the same access to resources). Answer: IQ remains very powerfully predictive even within a household. A century of study and attempts at intervention have all pointed to an overwhelmingly clear result: It's not wealth that makes someone have high IQ. It's high IQ that makes people wealthy. Children do inherit high IQ from their parents who had high IQ, but the mechanism of this isn't through wealth, it's genetic. About 80% of the variance in IQ is by genetic parentage. Example study: Examining adoptees' IQ scores in relation to their genetic parents versus the parents who raised them. Answer: They inherit their measured IQ from their genetic parents; the adoptive parents have essentially no effect (the last 20% of variation is basically random).

8note 4y ago

IQ correlates quite heavily with practice time on multiple choice tests though. Who spends their time doing lots of tests? Rich kids. Being wealthy also predicts a wide variety of positive life out ones including income, health, longevity, and not being incarcerated

jlawson 4y ago
No, this issue of test practice being a confounder has been studied exhaustively for decades. There are many ways studies have been designed to determine its impact. For example: Examining the predictive value of IQ tests between siblings in the same household (who generally have the same access to resources). Answer: IQ remains very powerfully predictive even within a household. A century of study and attempts at intervention have all pointed to an overwhelmingly clear result: It's not wealth that makes someone have high IQ. It's high IQ that makes people wealthy. Children do inherit high IQ from their parents who had high IQ, but the mechanism of this isn't through wealth, it's genetic. About 80% of the variance in IQ is by genetic parentage. Example study: Examining adoptees' IQ scores in relation to their genetic parents versus the parents who raised them. Answer: They inherit their measured IQ from their genetic parents; the adoptive parents have essentially no effect (the last 20% of variation is basically random).