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Studio shot material is definitely a bit more exaggerated and more selective with their performers. However, I don't really have the impression that amateur sh

Studio shot material is definitely a bit more exaggerated and more selective with their performers. However, I don't really have the impression that amateur shot stuff is "showing wholesome normal sex". Some studios do produce more realistic video but in my experience the amateur stuff is just worse lit and self shot. Still usually made by someone just trying to get a few quick bucks.

GekkePrutser 4y ago
I think the OPs point was that teenagers could start considering this the 'normal'. Personally I give them a little more credit. But it is a good point.
- wollsmoth 4y ago
  Yeah. It's hard to control what teens see and what their interpretation is. I don't know if there are really great examples of what healthy sex lives should be like. Everything is just extremely graphic and widely available.
- sidlls 4y ago
  I don’t agree, based on at least my personal experience. My wife and I (40s) don’t engage in even a fraction of the acts I see commonly in porn. My bf (mid-20s) and I, on the other hand regularly do. He sees these acts as normal and expected. She definitely does not, and neither do I. Anecdotes aren’t data, to be sure, but my bf’s friend group has a similarly completely different view of what is “normal” with respect to sexual activity, and the same is true for others of similar age I’ve been involved with. I’m convinced porn definitely shapes the view of normal.
  - dTal 4y ago
    Not saying you're necessarily wrong, but your observations are fully explainable by porn following trends; no causal direction can be established from them.
    - sidlls 4y ago
      You have a point, but I don’t think I agree. The mid-20s group get the majority of their education about what to do for sex from porn as much as if not more than from their sex partners. They didn’t set the trends for porn that is watched today, unless they started influencing the market when they were pre-pubescent.
  - GekkePrutser 4y ago
    Interesting, but it doesn't sound like a 'problem' per se. As long as people don't do these things against their wishes. It's not a bad thing if people broaden their sexual horizons IMO (though some of the sexual acts in porn are a bit gratuitous). But I strongly believe what consenting adults do in the bedroom is their business and nobody else's. And it does sound like it's definitely a subset of the more mainstream porn that he's practicing, after all the more extreme things often require more people. Like the other poster I also wonder whether this is a result of influencing from porn or that porn is influenced by changing behaviour. After all, porn wouldn't be made if people didn't like it.
labrador 4y ago
All I'm saying is that amateurs are going to have amateur sex so it's closer to the norm than pro sex and probably better for teens to watch and it's too bad that a lot of it will be gone, leaving mostly pro stuff. I understand the motivation: let's reduce the trafficking of women and revenge porn, but I'm not sure we're going about it in a good way.
- listless 4y ago
  I think the main problem with studio work is that it sets highly unrealistic expectations for what a woman’s body looks like. It’s professionally groomed and unnatural and girls cannot possibly meet the same standard on any given Tuesday. Neither can guys but I feel like the expectations for guys are generally much lower anyway.
  - labrador 4y ago
    Except for the large member, which I've heard intimidates the less endowed.
    - techdragon 4y ago
      If I’ve remembered the relevant studies about average penis length correctly, self reported penis length averages to a value between one and two inches longer than clinically measured lengths average to depending on which studies you pick. Which is definitely indicative of that endowment anxiety as a widespread issue.
  - wollsmoth 4y ago
    That's true, but I think it's also true of most movies and tv. Any group of people you see have been hand picked, cast, done up and very well lit.

GekkePrutser 4y ago

I think the OPs point was that teenagers could start considering this the 'normal'. Personally I give them a little more credit. But it is a good point.

wollsmoth 4y ago
Yeah. It's hard to control what teens see and what their interpretation is. I don't know if there are really great examples of what healthy sex lives should be like. Everything is just extremely graphic and widely available.
sidlls 4y ago
I don’t agree, based on at least my personal experience. My wife and I (40s) don’t engage in even a fraction of the acts I see commonly in porn. My bf (mid-20s) and I, on the other hand regularly do. He sees these acts as normal and expected. She definitely does not, and neither do I. Anecdotes aren’t data, to be sure, but my bf’s friend group has a similarly completely different view of what is “normal” with respect to sexual activity, and the same is true for others of similar age I’ve been involved with. I’m convinced porn definitely shapes the view of normal.
- dTal 4y ago
  Not saying you're necessarily wrong, but your observations are fully explainable by porn following trends; no causal direction can be established from them.
  - sidlls 4y ago
    You have a point, but I don’t think I agree. The mid-20s group get the majority of their education about what to do for sex from porn as much as if not more than from their sex partners. They didn’t set the trends for porn that is watched today, unless they started influencing the market when they were pre-pubescent.
- GekkePrutser 4y ago
  Interesting, but it doesn't sound like a 'problem' per se. As long as people don't do these things against their wishes. It's not a bad thing if people broaden their sexual horizons IMO (though some of the sexual acts in porn are a bit gratuitous). But I strongly believe what consenting adults do in the bedroom is their business and nobody else's. And it does sound like it's definitely a subset of the more mainstream porn that he's practicing, after all the more extreme things often require more people. Like the other poster I also wonder whether this is a result of influencing from porn or that porn is influenced by changing behaviour. After all, porn wouldn't be made if people didn't like it.

labrador 4y ago

All I'm saying is that amateurs are going to have amateur sex so it's closer to the norm than pro sex and probably better for teens to watch and it's too bad that a lot of it will be gone, leaving mostly pro stuff. I understand the motivation: let's reduce the trafficking of women and revenge porn, but I'm not sure we're going about it in a good way.

listless 4y ago
I think the main problem with studio work is that it sets highly unrealistic expectations for what a woman’s body looks like. It’s professionally groomed and unnatural and girls cannot possibly meet the same standard on any given Tuesday. Neither can guys but I feel like the expectations for guys are generally much lower anyway.
- labrador 4y ago
  Except for the large member, which I've heard intimidates the less endowed.
  - techdragon 4y ago
    If I’ve remembered the relevant studies about average penis length correctly, self reported penis length averages to a value between one and two inches longer than clinically measured lengths average to depending on which studies you pick. Which is definitely indicative of that endowment anxiety as a widespread issue.
- wollsmoth 4y ago
  That's true, but I think it's also true of most movies and tv. Any group of people you see have been hand picked, cast, done up and very well lit.