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> There is no such thing as a "Rust community". Actually, there is: https://www.rust-lang.org/community https://www.rust-lang.org/community. It's centralized a

> There is no such thing as a "Rust community". Actually, there is: https://www.rust-lang.org/community https://www.rust-lang.org/community. It's centralized and they even have appointed moderators https://www.rust-lang.org/governance/teams/moderation https://www.rust-lang.org/governance/teams/moderation. A bunch of them resigned recently due to alleged toxicity in the rust community and governance. https://www.theregister.com/2021/11/23/rust_moderation_team_quits/ https://www.theregister.com/2021/11/23/rust_moderation_team_.... Rust's community structure, and its accountability for its members misbehavior, runs counter to other programming languages like Zig https://kristoff.it/blog/interfacing-with-zig/ https://kristoff.it/blog/interfacing-with-zig/ which explicitly claims to be decentralized.

jmillikin 4y ago
Do you think that the linked Twitter post, quoting from Reddit, is using the same definition of "Rust community" that you are? This seems like another instance of the above pattern, where "Rust community" is simultaneously: (1) The set of people who talk about Rust online in major forums, such as Twitter and Reddit, and (2) The set of people who post on the moderated low-traffic official forum. I don't think most people, when someone says "Rust community should ...", would consider that to be scoped to people posting on rust-lang.org. Consider that according to https://users.rust-lang.org/u https://users.rust-lang.org/u there are 22,000 registered users on the rust-lang.org forums. There are currently 191,000 people subscribed to /r/rust, and since it's Reddit there's no need to be subscribed to post or comment. The number of people talking about Rust on Twitter is less practical to count, but probably at least the same order of magnitude.
- pverghese 4y ago
  I think he's probably refering to something like the actix situation where the insults and vitriol because of the use of unsafe for performance, made the author quit. Which is unfortunate for any open source contributor

jmillikin 4y ago

Do you think that the linked Twitter post, quoting from Reddit, is using the same definition of "Rust community" that you are? This seems like another instance of the above pattern, where "Rust community" is simultaneously: (1) The set of people who talk about Rust online in major forums, such as Twitter and Reddit, and (2) The set of people who post on the moderated low-traffic official forum. I don't think most people, when someone says "Rust community should ...", would consider that to be scoped to people posting on rust-lang.org. Consider that according to https://users.rust-lang.org/u https://users.rust-lang.org/u there are 22,000 registered users on the rust-lang.org forums. There are currently 191,000 people subscribed to /r/rust, and since it's Reddit there's no need to be subscribed to post or comment. The number of people talking about Rust on Twitter is less practical to count, but probably at least the same order of magnitude.

pverghese 4y ago
I think he's probably refering to something like the actix situation where the insults and vitriol because of the use of unsafe for performance, made the author quit. Which is unfortunate for any open source contributor