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Maybe it's just me, but It feels like I'm constantly gaslit on the Internet

9 points by winternett 4y ago

superchroma 4y ago
Well things certainly get worse after the initial honeymoon ends and the optimistic investment money dries up. I think this is just a sign that it's time to find new hangouts online. Best not to stick around and get monetized as part of a desperate attempt by social networks to get profitable.
- winternett 4y ago
  Agreed, it's not only influencers and content creators on these platforms that are seeking easy fame and money, it's also tech leadership... The biggest problem is that there aren't many "vibrant" community places left to go to other than big social media now, and the can quickly be overwhelmed by other migrating birds.
  - superchroma 4y ago
    I think the trick is to try and pick the next thing, and it probably won't be vibrant just yet. There was a time when youtube, tik-tok, twitch, VRChat, etc. were new and not cool yet, and, just like investing I suppose, you ideally want to try and pick the right thing and ride it up to maximum fun and then step off when it starts to sour.
    - winternett 4y ago
      Agreed, but I've been doing that since Friendster... It's exhausting to continually be creating platform specific content like that... Each new platform introduces new complications, e.g. when TikTok came about they revived vertical video, and that totally disrupted YouTubes horizontal (widescreen) format... On top of that, it's the physically excruciating process of uploading vital things over and over to each platform... Not really complaining because it's a part of the business, but as a musician that does everything mostly myself, it demands far too much attention. A new social site would be better designed to host links in differing formats all together, like a site you could just plug a YouTube URL into, or even a TikTok URL and then it would work to present posts to relevant people without requiring a lot of input from account managers, perhaps by searching the web for relevant info to the post content and person posting it. One of the biggest pains is whenever a new platform takes over in dominance, we have to scramble to reserve our namesake on the platform if it might take off. That too is stressful. I can't complain, because I'm lucky to be functional, but social media and related activity is very costly in time and money with constantly decreasing returns in public reach, volumes of valuable time can be wasted by anyone during the process of learning that. :/
NoMAD76 4y ago
Bring back: 1) Personal blogs 2) Blogroll 3) Web-rings and web-directories with manually curated links I left all "social media platforms" 4 years ago, never look back, never miss anything important
- winternett 4y ago
  I have as well, despite it being pretty expensive to maintain, updating my own sites is so much more of a "stable growth" feeling and far less stressful than working excessively on a massive social media site that might shutter overnight, limit me, or over-moderate me. I am quite sure that building and maintaining my own sites has cost me a lot less than what it would cost to keep promoting posts on social media. Now if only wen hosting companies weren't seeking to increase pricing and upsell us all the time, we'd have something really epic! har.
  - NoMAD76 4y ago
    You touched some true points here. Your site = Your rules. And it's not that hard to have a photo/video gallery for family/friends to see or even contribute. Hosting prices are on the golden age, not see any issues here. But well, depends on each requirements.

9 points by winternett 4y ago

Well things certainly get worse after the initial honeymoon ends and the optimistic investment money dries up. I think this is just a sign that it's time to find new hangouts online. Best not to stick around and get monetized as part of a desperate attempt by social networks to get profitable.

winternett 4y ago
Agreed, it's not only influencers and content creators on these platforms that are seeking easy fame and money, it's also tech leadership... The biggest problem is that there aren't many "vibrant" community places left to go to other than big social media now, and the can quickly be overwhelmed by other migrating birds.
- superchroma 4y ago
  I think the trick is to try and pick the next thing, and it probably won't be vibrant just yet. There was a time when youtube, tik-tok, twitch, VRChat, etc. were new and not cool yet, and, just like investing I suppose, you ideally want to try and pick the right thing and ride it up to maximum fun and then step off when it starts to sour.
  - winternett 4y ago
    Agreed, but I've been doing that since Friendster... It's exhausting to continually be creating platform specific content like that... Each new platform introduces new complications, e.g. when TikTok came about they revived vertical video, and that totally disrupted YouTubes horizontal (widescreen) format... On top of that, it's the physically excruciating process of uploading vital things over and over to each platform... Not really complaining because it's a part of the business, but as a musician that does everything mostly myself, it demands far too much attention. A new social site would be better designed to host links in differing formats all together, like a site you could just plug a YouTube URL into, or even a TikTok URL and then it would work to present posts to relevant people without requiring a lot of input from account managers, perhaps by searching the web for relevant info to the post content and person posting it. One of the biggest pains is whenever a new platform takes over in dominance, we have to scramble to reserve our namesake on the platform if it might take off. That too is stressful. I can't complain, because I'm lucky to be functional, but social media and related activity is very costly in time and money with constantly decreasing returns in public reach, volumes of valuable time can be wasted by anyone during the process of learning that. :/

NoMAD76 4y ago

Bring back: 1) Personal blogs 2) Blogroll 3) Web-rings and web-directories with manually curated links I left all "social media platforms" 4 years ago, never look back, never miss anything important

winternett 4y ago
I have as well, despite it being pretty expensive to maintain, updating my own sites is so much more of a "stable growth" feeling and far less stressful than working excessively on a massive social media site that might shutter overnight, limit me, or over-moderate me. I am quite sure that building and maintaining my own sites has cost me a lot less than what it would cost to keep promoting posts on social media. Now if only wen hosting companies weren't seeking to increase pricing and upsell us all the time, we'd have something really epic! har.
- NoMAD76 4y ago
  You touched some true points here. Your site = Your rules. And it's not that hard to have a photo/video gallery for family/friends to see or even contribute. Hosting prices are on the golden age, not see any issues here. But well, depends on each requirements.