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Managing remote work (let alone contractors) is far more difficult than in-person and geographic / time zone / cultural / legal differences only amplify this, b

Managing remote work (let alone contractors) is far more difficult than in-person and geographic / time zone / cultural / legal differences only amplify this, but yes, I think far too many people who fight for remote work don't realize that they are fighting for their own commoditization, and that it will kill their career if they actually get what they think they want.

senttoschool 4y ago
Geographic --> does not matter much because of 100% remote teams time zone --> plenty of people will work during nights and sleep during days if they can 10x their income cultural --> doesn't matter too much for software engineering. But I will agree that this is important for jobs like marketing. legal --> a lot of companies have popped up to make it easy to hire around the world and stay compliant.
- jjoonathan 4y ago
  You are taking a narrow view of the possible problems, which include adversarial strategies from outsourcing firms. It's not a matter of can things go correctly -- of course they can -- it's a matter of can unscrupulous actors exploit the chaos to bilk their clients. Historically that has been the failure mode, and the fracture points I listed were their tools of trade. "Just use a platform / reputation firm / ..." Yeah, we had those in the last wave of outsourcing, too. They were not able to tackle the "fraud-lite" problem for the simple reason that it was much more profitable to become part of the problem and ride the bubble until it collapsed.
celdon25 4y ago
> I think far too many people who fight for remote work don't realize that they are fighting for their own commoditization, and that it will kill their career if they actually get what they think they want. A reasonable argument, but it doesn't always hold true. I've been remote since 2014. I work more, not less, because of it. And I bring a lot to the table when it comes to solutions. A mid-level dev would have a much higher risk of replacement.

senttoschool 4y ago

Geographic --> does not matter much because of 100% remote teams time zone --> plenty of people will work during nights and sleep during days if they can 10x their income cultural --> doesn't matter too much for software engineering. But I will agree that this is important for jobs like marketing. legal --> a lot of companies have popped up to make it easy to hire around the world and stay compliant.

jjoonathan 4y ago
You are taking a narrow view of the possible problems, which include adversarial strategies from outsourcing firms. It's not a matter of can things go correctly -- of course they can -- it's a matter of can unscrupulous actors exploit the chaos to bilk their clients. Historically that has been the failure mode, and the fracture points I listed were their tools of trade. "Just use a platform / reputation firm / ..." Yeah, we had those in the last wave of outsourcing, too. They were not able to tackle the "fraud-lite" problem for the simple reason that it was much more profitable to become part of the problem and ride the bubble until it collapsed.

celdon25 4y ago

> I think far too many people who fight for remote work don't realize that they are fighting for their own commoditization, and that it will kill their career if they actually get what they think they want. A reasonable argument, but it doesn't always hold true. I've been remote since 2014. I work more, not less, because of it. And I bring a lot to the table when it comes to solutions. A mid-level dev would have a much higher risk of replacement.