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> Require TLS. Drop TLSv1.0 and TLSv1.1. Bots certainly break. So will people who run older computers with older software. But I guess people who don't have mo
by superkuh 4y ago
> Require TLS. Drop TLSv1.0 and TLSv1.1. Bots certainly break.
So will people who run older computers with older software. But I guess people who don't have money don't matter for commercial websites so screw 'em.
- Kalium 4y agoAnything that got a significant update in the past ten to twelve years will support TLS 1.2. The window of systems that would support 1.1 but not 1.2 is pretty small. You have to go all the way back to IE on Windows XP before a lack of 1.2 support becomes an issue. So, yeah. You're absolutely right. In a lot of cases the loss of revenue from users with severely outdated software will be less than the cost decease of cutting spam and abuse. This gets back to an old question - to what degree should legacy systems be supported and at what level of expense? There's no one easy answer that works for everyone.
- Avamander 4y agoI don't think there's much web you can visit with those browsers anyway. Windows XP with IE and no SNI support, maybe sites from that era without JavaScript would work?
- superkuh 4y agoI think you'd be surprised the how recent a browser can be and still lack a client/server cypher overlap once you start whittling down what TLS versions you accept. Just at the start of the pandemic many government sites had to re-enable early TLS because so many people couldn't access their recent TLS only sites. But yeah, corporate employees aren't going to care about those people. Governments have to. And human persons building personal websites should too.