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Apple has a history of making choices that jeopardize the likability of their platforms with the masses (eg headphone jack, removing Touch ID) They also have a

Apple has a history of making choices that jeopardize the likability of their platforms with the masses (eg headphone jack, removing Touch ID) They also have a history of getting away with it.

threeseed 4y ago
> jeopardize the likability of their platforms with the masses You don't represent the opinions of the masses. The fact that Apple iPhone sales continue unabated factually and objectively indicates that Headphone jacks and TouchID are not significant issues to warrant customers switching platforms.
askafriend 4y ago
Everyone I know primarily use wireless headphones and love FaceID. If they don't have wireless headphones, they just pop the little adapter onto the end and go on with their day.
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scarface74 4y ago
So they removed features that “jeopardized likeability” yet they keep selling more every year? How is that possible?
- MobiusHorizons 4y ago
  What I mean by jeopardize is that these changes taken on their own would be seen as bad by many consumers, it is only because apple also provides an alternative (however expensive) that they end up getting away with it in public opinion (and sales).
  - scarface74 4y ago
    You really think that most people prefer wired headphones than wireless? How many Android users - mostly on low end phones since high end Android phones also don’t have headphone jacks - actually prefer wired headphones? You also act as if iPhones only work with AirPods and not any cheap Bluetooth headset you can pick up from anywhere. Even Apple sells low end Beats Flex headphones for $50 that have the W1 chip with the special Apple sauce. I have a pair for traveling that I don’t have to worry about falling out.
- lmm 4y ago
  They aren't, they're making more revenue because they're jacking up the prices on a smaller number of sales.
  - scarface74 4y ago
    So people are willing to pay more for phones they don’t like? Even if that is true?
    - lmm 4y ago
      They're becoming even more of a luxury fashion brand. Enough people are willing to pay the higher prices that they come out ahead, but that's not about being "likable".
      - scarface74 4y ago
        Apple also isn’t losing market share. Do you really think the majority of people are clamoring for wired headphones in 2022?
        lmm 4y ago
        > Do you really think the majority of people are clamoring for wired headphones in 2022? Yes, I do.
        scarface74 4y ago
        Where are these people in the US? They aren’t the 60%+ who are buying iPhones. They also aren’t the ones who are buying the Google Pixel, or high end Samsung Galaxies.
        lmm 4y ago
        Or they're buying them and putting up with the headphone situation.

Apple has a history of making choices that jeopardize the likability of their platforms with the masses (eg headphone jack, removing Touch ID) They also have a history of getting away with it.

threeseed 4y ago

> jeopardize the likability of their platforms with the masses You don't represent the opinions of the masses. The fact that Apple iPhone sales continue unabated factually and objectively indicates that Headphone jacks and TouchID are not significant issues to warrant customers switching platforms.

askafriend 4y ago

Everyone I know primarily use wireless headphones and love FaceID. If they don't have wireless headphones, they just pop the little adapter onto the end and go on with their day.

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scarface74 4y ago

So they removed features that “jeopardized likeability” yet they keep selling more every year? How is that possible?

MobiusHorizons 4y ago
What I mean by jeopardize is that these changes taken on their own would be seen as bad by many consumers, it is only because apple also provides an alternative (however expensive) that they end up getting away with it in public opinion (and sales).
- scarface74 4y ago
  You really think that most people prefer wired headphones than wireless? How many Android users - mostly on low end phones since high end Android phones also don’t have headphone jacks - actually prefer wired headphones? You also act as if iPhones only work with AirPods and not any cheap Bluetooth headset you can pick up from anywhere. Even Apple sells low end Beats Flex headphones for $50 that have the W1 chip with the special Apple sauce. I have a pair for traveling that I don’t have to worry about falling out.
lmm 4y ago
They aren't, they're making more revenue because they're jacking up the prices on a smaller number of sales.
- scarface74 4y ago
  So people are willing to pay more for phones they don’t like? Even if that is true?
  - lmm 4y ago
    They're becoming even more of a luxury fashion brand. Enough people are willing to pay the higher prices that they come out ahead, but that's not about being "likable".
    - scarface74 4y ago
      Apple also isn’t losing market share. Do you really think the majority of people are clamoring for wired headphones in 2022?
      - lmm 4y ago
        > Do you really think the majority of people are clamoring for wired headphones in 2022? Yes, I do.
        scarface74 4y ago
        Where are these people in the US? They aren’t the 60%+ who are buying iPhones. They also aren’t the ones who are buying the Google Pixel, or high end Samsung Galaxies.
        lmm 4y ago
        Or they're buying them and putting up with the headphone situation.