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You sound like such a typical HN user it's hilarious . Not everything is so cynical. Apple has a history of putting users first. Do you really think they're goi
by Ro93 4y ago
You sound like such a typical HN user it's hilarious . Not everything is so cynical. Apple has a history of putting users first. Do you really think they're going to jeopardize the likability of their own OS to the masses?
- MobiusHorizons 4y agoApple has a history of making choices that jeopardize the likability of their platforms with the masses (eg headphone jack, removing Touch ID) They also have a history of getting away with it.
- threeseed 4y ago> jeopardize the likability of their platforms with the masses You don't represent the opinions of the masses. The fact that Apple iPhone sales continue unabated factually and objectively indicates that Headphone jacks and TouchID are not significant issues to warrant customers switching platforms.
- askafriend 4y agoEveryone I know primarily use wireless headphones and love FaceID. If they don't have wireless headphones, they just pop the little adapter onto the end and go on with their day.
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- scarface74 4y agoSo they removed features that “jeopardized likeability” yet they keep selling more every year? How is that possible?
- MobiusHorizons 4y agoWhat I mean by jeopardize is that these changes taken on their own would be seen as bad by many consumers, it is only because apple also provides an alternative (however expensive) that they end up getting away with it in public opinion (and sales).
- scarface74 4y agoYou really think that most people prefer wired headphones than wireless? How many Android users - mostly on low end phones since high end Android phones also don’t have headphone jacks - actually prefer wired headphones? You also act as if iPhones only work with AirPods and not any cheap Bluetooth headset you can pick up from anywhere. Even Apple sells low end Beats Flex headphones for $50 that have the W1 chip with the special Apple sauce. I have a pair for traveling that I don’t have to worry about falling out.
- lmm 4y agoThey aren't, they're making more revenue because they're jacking up the prices on a smaller number of sales.
- scarface74 4y agoSo people are willing to pay more for phones they don’t like? Even if that is true?
- lmm 4y agoThey're becoming even more of a luxury fashion brand. Enough people are willing to pay the higher prices that they come out ahead, but that's not about being "likable".
- scarface74 4y agoApple also isn’t losing market share. Do you really think the majority of people are clamoring for wired headphones in 2022?
- lmm 4y ago> Do you really think the majority of people are clamoring for wired headphones in 2022? Yes, I do.
- scarface74 4y agoWhere are these people in the US? They aren’t the 60%+ who are buying iPhones. They also aren’t the ones who are buying the Google Pixel, or high end Samsung Galaxies.
- lmm 4y agoOr they're buying them and putting up with the headphone situation.
- slivanes 4y agoPutting users first by making un-serviceable laptops? Putting users first by removing headphone jacks? Putting users first by crippling competing web browsers on iOS?
- threeseed 4y agoa) Laptops are serviceable and manuals/parts are available to self-repair them. b) Headphone jacks are simply not useful for most people with the popularity of Bluetooth. And those that need them can use Apple's class leading USB DAC dongles. c) Web browsers are such a significant security vector that I am fully in favour of heavily sandboxing them and restricting what they can do. I like my web sites to be different from my apps.
- scarface74 4y agoYou realize that most high end phones have removed head phone jacks? What next? Complaining about Apple removing SCSI ports?
- vogon_laureate 4y agoRIP SCSI and FireWire.
- judge2020 4y ago> Putting users first by crippling competing web browsers on iOS? I can happily re-enable the privacy-destroying qualities of web browsing by using Chrome on iOS, thank you very much.
- figmaheart255 4y agoit's still crippled though. Try playing webm videos, like here https://www.base-n.de/webm/VP9%20Sample.html https://www.base-n.de/webm/VP9%20Sample.html They won't play because all browsers on iOS use webkit, and webkit doesn't support WebM. Whereas chrome and firefox on android both support it.
- anonymousab 4y agoMacOS already bugs me about using Safari and other apps with periodic notification banners that cannot be disabled. Oh, you can disable that crap for non apple apps. But Apple doesn't let you do it for theirs.
- whywhywhywhy 4y agoThey're already doing things that Mac OS users from lets say the era of Jaguar would find utterly tasteless. I use iTunes match for my music but for 6 months last year once a month opening their music app it would force me to dismiss an Apple Music trail before I could play MY files. App Store already has a pile of ads and paid placements before you get to the exact name match. End of the day they don't have a product visionary at the helm they have a bean counter.
- postalrat 4y agoUsers first but users can't use a web browser that might (but unlikely) compete with their app revenue?
- scarface74 4y agoSo if Apple’s forcing users to use WebKit is keeping great PWAs at bay, where are all of the great web apps for Android?
- postalrat 4y agoI pretty much only use web apps.