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Clarification: He thinks it came out of a US biotech lab. Given who was the US president at the time of the outbreak... I don't exactly believe it, but I wouldn

by vegai_ 4y ago

Clarification: He thinks it came out of a US biotech lab. Given who was the US president at the time of the outbreak... I don't exactly believe it, but I wouldn't be terribly surprised if it turned out that Trump outright ordered it as a covert mass destruction attack which then got out of hand. He would be just the kind of "man" who would ignore all the warnings and just do it. Not that we'd ever find out if that happened.

cranberried 4y ago
He is not saying it came out of a US lab. He is saying it came from US lab biotechnology. I.e. from US tech and funding for gain-of-function research; The suspected culprit was banned in the US in 2014: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-017-08837-7 https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-017-08837-7 It seems absurd to say it came from a US lab when the original outbreak was in Wuhan. The virology lab there was supported with US funding and research. https://theintercept.com/2021/09/06/new-details-emerge-about-coronavirus-research-at-chinese-lab/ https://theintercept.com/2021/09/06/new-details-emerge-about...
- vegai_ 4y ago
  >He is not saying it came out of a US lab. He is saying it came from US lab biotechnology. I.e. from US tech and funding for gain-of-function research; The suspected culprit was banned in the US in 2014: Ah, thanks for the correction. >It seems absurd to say it came from a US lab when the original outbreak was in Wuhan. The virology lab there was supported with US funding and research. I accepted that this is conspiracy theory level stuff... but... if one were to make a covert biological weapons attack on another country, what better place is there to plant it but right next to their own biotech labs? This doesn't survive contact with Occam's Razor at all, but I don't know, might be a plot point in a mediocre thriller.
  - cranberried 4y ago
    I perosonally believe any US research there was purely alturistic in intention - actually finding vaccines and cures to bat coronaviruses. Scientific hubris is a simple and "satisfying" explanation for the leak.
raxxorraxor 4y ago
That is completely off base and I think Mr. Sachs has a serious delusion and obsession with Trump. If artificially created we should look at Moderna, since they allegedly had a patent on the sequence that was found in the Coronavirus.

by vegai_ 4y ago

cranberried 4y ago

He is not saying it came out of a US lab. He is saying it came from US lab biotechnology. I.e. from US tech and funding for gain-of-function research; The suspected culprit was banned in the US in 2014: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-017-08837-7 https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-017-08837-7 It seems absurd to say it came from a US lab when the original outbreak was in Wuhan. The virology lab there was supported with US funding and research. https://theintercept.com/2021/09/06/new-details-emerge-about-coronavirus-research-at-chinese-lab/ https://theintercept.com/2021/09/06/new-details-emerge-about...

vegai_ 4y ago
>He is not saying it came out of a US lab. He is saying it came from US lab biotechnology. I.e. from US tech and funding for gain-of-function research; The suspected culprit was banned in the US in 2014: Ah, thanks for the correction. >It seems absurd to say it came from a US lab when the original outbreak was in Wuhan. The virology lab there was supported with US funding and research. I accepted that this is conspiracy theory level stuff... but... if one were to make a covert biological weapons attack on another country, what better place is there to plant it but right next to their own biotech labs? This doesn't survive contact with Occam's Razor at all, but I don't know, might be a plot point in a mediocre thriller.
- cranberried 4y ago
  I perosonally believe any US research there was purely alturistic in intention - actually finding vaccines and cures to bat coronaviruses. Scientific hubris is a simple and "satisfying" explanation for the leak.

raxxorraxor 4y ago

That is completely off base and I think Mr. Sachs has a serious delusion and obsession with Trump. If artificially created we should look at Moderna, since they allegedly had a patent on the sequence that was found in the Coronavirus.