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I think the energy prices situation is going to be far worse in most of Europe than in the USA, but this winter is going to suck as far as heating bills go. We

I think the energy prices situation is going to be far worse in most of Europe than in the USA, but this winter is going to suck as far as heating bills go. We'll probably see rebate checks go out, or at least programs to give money to low-income families for their bills, but they probably won't send those out until February or so. People are going to be wishing for global warming at that point.

avnfish 4y ago
UK govt is providing rebates from October onwards to all bill payers [] so I wouldn't be surprised [] https://www.gov.uk/government/news/400-energy-bills-discount-to-support-households-this-winter https://www.gov.uk/government/news/400-energy-bills-discount...
- ZeroGravitas 4y ago
  Just giving cash to everyone would be simpler and better, since you could spend it on jumpers rather than fossil fuels if you wanted to, but subsidies for buying fossil fuels are mysteriously popular with governments that don't like subsidies in general.
shaftoe444 4y ago
Now is the time to buy some nice jumpers, longjohns and blankets. Not even joking.
- akmarinov 4y ago
  People in Germany are already clearing out electric heaters and it’s record hot outside… Let’s just see how the electricity situation works out in the winter.
  - bojangleslover 4y ago
    Classic Germany. I love it. Totally rational thing to do. On the other hand even electric heaters must draw from somewhere, and it's looking like it might be coal.
  - Semaphor 4y ago
    > People in Germany are already clearing out electric heaters and it’s record hot outside… That will also be fun. I just made a new electricity contract, from 0.26€/kWh for my current one, it will be 0.42€/kWh and that price is only because I changed to a 24 months contract (gambling prices won’t fall in a year). I guess it’s better than freezing, but those heaters will be expensive.

avnfish 4y ago

UK govt is providing rebates from October onwards to all bill payers [] so I wouldn't be surprised [] https://www.gov.uk/government/news/400-energy-bills-discount-to-support-households-this-winter https://www.gov.uk/government/news/400-energy-bills-discount...

ZeroGravitas 4y ago
Just giving cash to everyone would be simpler and better, since you could spend it on jumpers rather than fossil fuels if you wanted to, but subsidies for buying fossil fuels are mysteriously popular with governments that don't like subsidies in general.

shaftoe444 4y ago

Now is the time to buy some nice jumpers, longjohns and blankets. Not even joking.

akmarinov 4y ago
People in Germany are already clearing out electric heaters and it’s record hot outside… Let’s just see how the electricity situation works out in the winter.
- bojangleslover 4y ago
  Classic Germany. I love it. Totally rational thing to do. On the other hand even electric heaters must draw from somewhere, and it's looking like it might be coal.
- Semaphor 4y ago
  > People in Germany are already clearing out electric heaters and it’s record hot outside… That will also be fun. I just made a new electricity contract, from 0.26€/kWh for my current one, it will be 0.42€/kWh and that price is only because I changed to a 24 months contract (gambling prices won’t fall in a year). I guess it’s better than freezing, but those heaters will be expensive.