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This is one of the reasons why Github is so superior and why it has no real competition. They understand the community and cost which that brings to them. Their

by mirzap 4y ago

This is one of the reasons why Github is so superior and why it has no real competition. They understand the community and cost which that brings to them. Their product is about communities, not about hosting code. Also, it's much easier to discover other communities (or code) on Github. On Gitlab you host your code and that's it. Story ends, no discovery, no engagement, nothing. It is great platform for managing internal projects for sure, lot of great tooling (CI/CD, package registry, etc.) but it always seemed absurd to me to build an open source community on Gitlab. It's not build for that. Everyday I discover something new on Github. On Gitlab, even when I find something I'm kind of sceptical and I never used anything anyone posted on Gitlab.

welterde 4y ago
For discovery github is only marginally better. Even sites like HN or reddit are better for discovering projects that are on github/gitlab than the sites themselves. There used to be freshmeat.net back in the day that was quite nice for discovering weird new things.
- em-bee 4y ago
  i still don't understand why freshmeat died. was it so much work to maintain? according to wikipedia the traffic was to low, so i guess the site didn't make any money. but https://freshcode.club https://freshcode.club was created as an alternative site and still seems to be active
flohofwoe 4y ago
To me it's the other way around. Github seems to focus too much on becoming a 'social media site' instead of providing a solid collaborative development environment. Most new Github features seem to be developed in a vacuum and don't add anything useful at all. Gitlab on the other hand, it's very clear that they are dogfooding hard and are focused much more on professional development teams. Shame though that the monetization strategy doesn't seem to work out. (having said that: I'm hosting all my open source projects on github too, but that was more like an accident, I just picked the most popular service after Sourceforge went evil).
fariszr 4y ago
There is a price to all of this. GitHub can afford, the Unlimited Action minutes, unlimited project storage, and many other things because its owned by Microsoft, and they are playing the long game. After Copilot and the absoulte disregard for any question about software license compliance, Its clear now what their goals are, and that's why the #giveupgithub campaign from the SFconservancy was started. https://giveupgithub.org https://giveupgithub.org

by mirzap 4y ago

welterde 4y ago

For discovery github is only marginally better. Even sites like HN or reddit are better for discovering projects that are on github/gitlab than the sites themselves. There used to be freshmeat.net back in the day that was quite nice for discovering weird new things.

em-bee 4y ago
i still don't understand why freshmeat died. was it so much work to maintain? according to wikipedia the traffic was to low, so i guess the site didn't make any money. but https://freshcode.club https://freshcode.club was created as an alternative site and still seems to be active

flohofwoe 4y ago

To me it's the other way around. Github seems to focus too much on becoming a 'social media site' instead of providing a solid collaborative development environment. Most new Github features seem to be developed in a vacuum and don't add anything useful at all. Gitlab on the other hand, it's very clear that they are dogfooding hard and are focused much more on professional development teams. Shame though that the monetization strategy doesn't seem to work out. (having said that: I'm hosting all my open source projects on github too, but that was more like an accident, I just picked the most popular service after Sourceforge went evil).

fariszr 4y ago

There is a price to all of this. GitHub can afford, the Unlimited Action minutes, unlimited project storage, and many other things because its owned by Microsoft, and they are playing the long game. After Copilot and the absoulte disregard for any question about software license compliance, Its clear now what their goals are, and that's why the #giveupgithub campaign from the SFconservancy was started. https://giveupgithub.org https://giveupgithub.org