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There is a whole Wikipedia article for it!: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postgenderism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postgenderism

rayiner 4y ago
I wish “the discourse” would learn to acknowledge the difference between post-genderist ideas, and basic rights for transgender people. The latter is (1) already the law of the land, and (2) not politically controversial: https://www.kff.org/other/press-release/poll-large-majorities-including-republicans-oppose-discrimination-against-lesbian-gay-bisexual-and-transgender-people-by-employers-and-health-care-providers/ https://www.kff.org/other/press-release/poll-large-majoritie... (“Large majorities of Americans think it should be illegal for either employers or health care providers to discriminate against people because they are lesbian, gay or bisexual, or transgender, a new KFF poll finds. This includes large majorities of Republicans, independents and Democrats.”) See also: https://www.hrc.org/press-releases/icymi-bidens-bostock-eo-rated-most-popular https://www.hrc.org/press-releases/icymi-bidens-bostock-eo-r... (83% of the public, including 63% of Republicans support Biden’s executive order protecting trans rights). At this stage, attempting to use trans rights as a vehicle for broader changes to society’s notions of gender harms rather than helps trans people. It takes something that has broad support and is increasingly uncontroversial, and lashes it to a broader intellectual project that’s alienating and unpopular.
- smegsicle 4y ago
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  - Elinvynia 4y ago
    Bathrooms and prisons, definitely. There is no magical barrier stopping a man from entering a woman's bathroom. What you are suggesting otherwise is buff trans men having to use the same bathroom as cis women, basically fulfilling your transphobic stereotype just not in a way you anticipated :) As for sports, that's for the specific sport organizations to decide the rules based on latest research.
alexb_ 4y ago
If we eliminate gender as a social concept, what will we be left with to categorize people? Back to where we started?

rayiner 4y ago

I wish “the discourse” would learn to acknowledge the difference between post-genderist ideas, and basic rights for transgender people. The latter is (1) already the law of the land, and (2) not politically controversial: https://www.kff.org/other/press-release/poll-large-majorities-including-republicans-oppose-discrimination-against-lesbian-gay-bisexual-and-transgender-people-by-employers-and-health-care-providers/ https://www.kff.org/other/press-release/poll-large-majoritie... (“Large majorities of Americans think it should be illegal for either employers or health care providers to discriminate against people because they are lesbian, gay or bisexual, or transgender, a new KFF poll finds. This includes large majorities of Republicans, independents and Democrats.”) See also: https://www.hrc.org/press-releases/icymi-bidens-bostock-eo-rated-most-popular https://www.hrc.org/press-releases/icymi-bidens-bostock-eo-r... (83% of the public, including 63% of Republicans support Biden’s executive order protecting trans rights). At this stage, attempting to use trans rights as a vehicle for broader changes to society’s notions of gender harms rather than helps trans people. It takes something that has broad support and is increasingly uncontroversial, and lashes it to a broader intellectual project that’s alienating and unpopular.

smegsicle 4y ago
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- Elinvynia 4y ago
  Bathrooms and prisons, definitely. There is no magical barrier stopping a man from entering a woman's bathroom. What you are suggesting otherwise is buff trans men having to use the same bathroom as cis women, basically fulfilling your transphobic stereotype just not in a way you anticipated :) As for sports, that's for the specific sport organizations to decide the rules based on latest research.

alexb_ 4y ago

If we eliminate gender as a social concept, what will we be left with to categorize people? Back to where we started?