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I personally feel like Windows in the past 3-4 years has been slowly unifying to at the very least be more consistent. Part of this was the introduction of Wind

I personally feel like Windows in the past 3-4 years has been slowly unifying to at the very least be more consistent. Part of this was the introduction of Windows Terminal, the rebuild of Notepad, tweaks to Explorer, rebuild of Task Manager coming in 22H2, and the huge overhaul to Settings which is slowly rendering Control Panel obsolete.

spaetzleesser 4y ago
"the huge overhaul to Settings which is slowly rendering Control Panel obsolete." I bet we'll have nuclear fusion before the Control Panel is obsolete.
iasay 4y ago
These things are pretty much just bike shedding though in the scale of the problems with Windows. They are very easy to market as improvements though and MSFT is entirely driven by marketing now rather than quality and engineering.
azinman2 4y ago
That they have released any version of windows without 100% consistency is itself an abomination. We’re not even talking about a nit, there are literally completely different paradigms within Settings itself as you click around, and that’s just one example of many. Perhaps it’s my Apple-bias, but every time I go to use Windows I just go “wow how could they say yup ship it?!”
- pathartl 4y ago
  Even System Preferences (Settings now?) in macOS is a complete mess.
  - azinman2 4y ago
    It’s become more coherent with the rest of the platform and iOS, even if you don’t like the design.
- robotnikman 4y ago
  extreme backwards compatability is my guess. There is probably some ancient program a business is running somewhere out there which depends on the control panel, or that random button, being there for whatever reason.
blibble 4y ago
notepad could be built by a smart 12 year old over a weekend and a terminal is a pretty common single person open source project meanwhile the shell has something like 7 different styles of context menu, with several new ones added with every major release
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- speed_spread 4y ago
  Notepad uses bare Win32 API calls. If a 12 year old can handle that in a weekend, I'm Rihanna.
  - codebolt 4y ago
    I taught myself coding Win32 API in C as a young teenager, nothing magic about it. And Notepad is a very basic app.
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  - blibble 4y ago
    it's an edit control inside a window take the standard example of how to create a window and add one more CreateWindow() call
    - speed_spread 4y ago
      Ah, simple like this: https://github.com/genuinelucifer/mypad https://github.com/genuinelucifer/mypad I like that part: hEdit = CreateWindowEx ( WS_EX_CLIENTEDGE, /* Extended possibilites for variation */ "EDIT", /* Classname */ "", /* Title Text */ WS_CHILD|WS_VISIBLE|WS_VSCROLL|WS_HSCROLL|ES_MULTILINE|ES_AUTOHSCROLL|ES_AUTOVSCROLL , /* default window */ 1, /* Windows decides the position */ 1, /* where the window ends up on the screen */ 100, /* The programs width */ 100, /* and height in pixels */ hwnd, /* The window is a child-window to hwnd */ (HMENU) IDC_EDIT, /* No menu */ GetModuleHandle(NULL), /* Program Instance handler */ NULL /* No Window Creation data */ );

spaetzleesser 4y ago

"the huge overhaul to Settings which is slowly rendering Control Panel obsolete." I bet we'll have nuclear fusion before the Control Panel is obsolete.

iasay 4y ago

These things are pretty much just bike shedding though in the scale of the problems with Windows. They are very easy to market as improvements though and MSFT is entirely driven by marketing now rather than quality and engineering.

azinman2 4y ago

That they have released any version of windows without 100% consistency is itself an abomination. We’re not even talking about a nit, there are literally completely different paradigms within Settings itself as you click around, and that’s just one example of many. Perhaps it’s my Apple-bias, but every time I go to use Windows I just go “wow how could they say yup ship it?!”

pathartl 4y ago
Even System Preferences (Settings now?) in macOS is a complete mess.
- azinman2 4y ago
  It’s become more coherent with the rest of the platform and iOS, even if you don’t like the design.
robotnikman 4y ago
extreme backwards compatability is my guess. There is probably some ancient program a business is running somewhere out there which depends on the control panel, or that random button, being there for whatever reason.

blibble 4y ago

notepad could be built by a smart 12 year old over a weekend and a terminal is a pretty common single person open source project meanwhile the shell has something like 7 different styles of context menu, with several new ones added with every major release

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speed_spread 4y ago
Notepad uses bare Win32 API calls. If a 12 year old can handle that in a weekend, I'm Rihanna.
- codebolt 4y ago
  I taught myself coding Win32 API in C as a young teenager, nothing magic about it. And Notepad is a very basic app.
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- blibble 4y ago
  it's an edit control inside a window take the standard example of how to create a window and add one more CreateWindow() call
  - speed_spread 4y ago
    Ah, simple like this: https://github.com/genuinelucifer/mypad https://github.com/genuinelucifer/mypad I like that part: hEdit = CreateWindowEx ( WS_EX_CLIENTEDGE, /* Extended possibilites for variation */ "EDIT", /* Classname */ "", /* Title Text */ WS_CHILD|WS_VISIBLE|WS_VSCROLL|WS_HSCROLL|ES_MULTILINE|ES_AUTOHSCROLL|ES_AUTOVSCROLL , /* default window */ 1, /* Windows decides the position */ 1, /* where the window ends up on the screen */ 100, /* The programs width */ 100, /* and height in pixels */ hwnd, /* The window is a child-window to hwnd */ (HMENU) IDC_EDIT, /* No menu */ GetModuleHandle(NULL), /* Program Instance handler */ NULL /* No Window Creation data */ );