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It definitely has supplanted them in Iceland. Even the most remote places that used to use oil are generally switching to geothermal for heating. Converting t

It definitely has supplanted them in Iceland. Even the most remote places that used to use oil are generally switching to geothermal for heating. Converting the heat to power isn’t always worth it because the island has so much plentiful hydro power. Fossil fuels account for basically 0% of Icelandic power.

eesmith 4y ago
FWIW, about 12.8% says https://ourworldindata.org/energy/country/iceland#how-much-of-the-country-s-energy-comes-from-fossil-fuels https://ourworldindata.org/energy/country/iceland#how-much-o... . (Wikipedia says 15% at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_in_Iceland https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_in_Iceland but that uses a 10 year old source.)
- samatman 4y ago
  That's energy, OP referred to power, which normally means generated power in these discussions. All of the fossil energy is oil, none is coal, and I believe that's all used in transportation and a tiny bit of heating in the hinterlands. I wonder how the flying in and out is accounted for in these sorts of figures, if hydrocarbons are ever replaced in aviation it will be dead last after everything else.
  - eesmith 4y ago
    Okay. OP' parent referred to "global replacement for fossil fuels or it would have supplanted them already". I found Iceland's "Fuel Use Forecast" at https://nea.is/fuel/forecast/nr/132 https://nea.is/fuel/forecast/nr/132 , which appear to be from 2007. It shows aviation as the biggest - and growing - consumer of fuel.
    - samatman 4y ago
      Iceland has so much access to power that they're likely to be the first country to export net negative carbon in some fashion: aluminum I'd guess, we always need that. This won't involve burning less jet fuel and resembles a Papal indulgence, but maintaining an industrial civilization while decarbonizing industry is impossible without this kind of accounting.

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It definitely has supplanted them in Iceland. Even the most remote places that used to use oil are generally switching to geothermal for heating. Converting t

by djcapelis 4y ago

eesmith 4y ago
FWIW, about 12.8% says https://ourworldindata.org/energy/country/iceland#how-much-of-the-country-s-energy-comes-from-fossil-fuels https://ourworldindata.org/energy/country/iceland#how-much-o... . (Wikipedia says 15% at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_in_Iceland https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_in_Iceland but that uses a 10 year old source.)
- samatman 4y ago
  That's energy, OP referred to power, which normally means generated power in these discussions. All of the fossil energy is oil, none is coal, and I believe that's all used in transportation and a tiny bit of heating in the hinterlands. I wonder how the flying in and out is accounted for in these sorts of figures, if hydrocarbons are ever replaced in aviation it will be dead last after everything else.
  - eesmith 4y ago
    Okay. OP' parent referred to "global replacement for fossil fuels or it would have supplanted them already". I found Iceland's "Fuel Use Forecast" at https://nea.is/fuel/forecast/nr/132 https://nea.is/fuel/forecast/nr/132 , which appear to be from 2007. It shows aviation as the biggest - and growing - consumer of fuel.
    - samatman 4y ago
      Iceland has so much access to power that they're likely to be the first country to export net negative carbon in some fashion: aluminum I'd guess, we always need that. This won't involve burning less jet fuel and resembles a Papal indulgence, but maintaining an industrial civilization while decarbonizing industry is impossible without this kind of accounting.