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Again, why does this mean that I have to suffer from robocalls, other than cynical justification to defend robocalls in the abstract and continue to inflict the

Again, why does this mean that I have to suffer from robocalls, other than cynical justification to defend robocalls in the abstract and continue to inflict them on everyone?

kube-system 4y ago
I suppose if you have enough money, you might be able to convince AT&T or your local lawmaker to cater specifically to your desires. I just doubt that the result of your stated preference is a solution that would be workable enough for the general public. The rest of the world just wants the spam calls to go away but still get calls from their bank/pharmacy/doctor/school/etc. Asking them to choose between the two is not a solution for them, even if it is for you. No law maker is going to propose that. And your carrier already DGAF.
- lamontcg 4y ago
  If this was an option available to every consumer I suspect uptake would be closer to 50% or more. It would look a lot more like Apple's privacy features than some bespoke setting that I'm the only person in the world who cares about it. And this is probably what you're actually afraid of for some reason.
  - kube-system 4y ago
    I don't doubt that, I'm sure 50% of people will check the option thinking it'll just block spam. The problem is that blocking robocalls entirely would block legitimate calls that they're not aware of until it'll cause pain and frustration down the line. Most people do want fraud notifications from their bank, notifications from their utilities about maintenance, notifications that their kid's school is closed today, a call back from customer service when they ask for one, etc. But nobody would think or even have the ability to know about this when checking your "block all robocalls" option, and now you have created a new problem. If you give people a footgun, they will use it, and they will blame whoever came up with the idea. This is why nobody will do what you are asking.

Again, why does this mean that I have to suffer from robocalls, other than cynical justification to defend robocalls in the abstract and continue to inflict them on everyone?

kube-system 4y ago

I suppose if you have enough money, you might be able to convince AT&T or your local lawmaker to cater specifically to your desires. I just doubt that the result of your stated preference is a solution that would be workable enough for the general public. The rest of the world just wants the spam calls to go away but still get calls from their bank/pharmacy/doctor/school/etc. Asking them to choose between the two is not a solution for them, even if it is for you. No law maker is going to propose that. And your carrier already DGAF.

lamontcg 4y ago
If this was an option available to every consumer I suspect uptake would be closer to 50% or more. It would look a lot more like Apple's privacy features than some bespoke setting that I'm the only person in the world who cares about it. And this is probably what you're actually afraid of for some reason.
- kube-system 4y ago
  I don't doubt that, I'm sure 50% of people will check the option thinking it'll just block spam. The problem is that blocking robocalls entirely would block legitimate calls that they're not aware of until it'll cause pain and frustration down the line. Most people do want fraud notifications from their bank, notifications from their utilities about maintenance, notifications that their kid's school is closed today, a call back from customer service when they ask for one, etc. But nobody would think or even have the ability to know about this when checking your "block all robocalls" option, and now you have created a new problem. If you give people a footgun, they will use it, and they will blame whoever came up with the idea. This is why nobody will do what you are asking.