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Wait, I'm confused. What's the defense of this? Why is there a presumption that this is okay to do? This person is trying to do more jobs than they have time fo

Wait, I'm confused. What's the defense of this? Why is there a presumption that this is okay to do? This person is trying to do more jobs than they have time for and failing. The people on this subreddit are clearly on the "it's bad cause you got caught" side of things. I don't care how many jobs you work if you get the work done. Likewise, if you find a job that requires less of you than you have time in the day, that's great! But if your goal is to do two jobs badly instead of one job well, I do judge you, because you're crossing the line to harming others with your negligence. That's not something to be celebrated. Edited to add, on a related note: What company cares if your system is active or not? Nobody is checking my laptop to see how many hours I'm working or what hours they are. My performance at my job is the proof.

Clubber 4y ago
Not only that, we've been fighting for 20+ years for remote work. Now that it's finally here, people like this risk reverting back to the commute life. This person should certainly get fired. Get your work done, you're probably paid well for it. If you don't like what you do, go work somewhere else.
- superchroma 4y ago
  On one hand, yes, but realistically, if I am achieving the work I am assigned and contributing acceptably at meetings, then I should get the pay. If it took the IT department to notice a jiggler app and flag the employee because the manager was so asleep at the wheel, then the manager either needs to be fired with the employee or everyone needs to accept the behavior and move on. You get a couple of weeks grace when you're hired, but eventually people set a work rhythm and shouldn't be able to hide forever. If more work is demanded, then maybe the pay should be increased accordingly, because they clearly were willing to pay the guy what he already got for the work he was already doing. And I would welcome all these idiot managers getting the boot because they're too busy playing politics and planning power grabs to spare a thought for what is happening in their own kingdoms. A great leader is a huge force multiplier for a team and we need opportunities for talent to get promoted.
  - driscoll42 4y ago
    According to the article the person was missing stands and other meetings for "thunderstorms" and "power outages", and the mouse jiggler was the last straw. I think more likely there was concern about the employee and they looked into what the user was doing and saw this. So... the person "wasn't" achieving their work.
leereeves 4y ago
I wouldn't defend this, but I think the support for it comes from frustration with being surveilled and micromanaged by remote employers. There are too many jobs that care too much about squeezing employees for every possible minute of work, instead of letting performance be the proof.
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Clubber 4y ago

Not only that, we've been fighting for 20+ years for remote work. Now that it's finally here, people like this risk reverting back to the commute life. This person should certainly get fired. Get your work done, you're probably paid well for it. If you don't like what you do, go work somewhere else.

superchroma 4y ago
On one hand, yes, but realistically, if I am achieving the work I am assigned and contributing acceptably at meetings, then I should get the pay. If it took the IT department to notice a jiggler app and flag the employee because the manager was so asleep at the wheel, then the manager either needs to be fired with the employee or everyone needs to accept the behavior and move on. You get a couple of weeks grace when you're hired, but eventually people set a work rhythm and shouldn't be able to hide forever. If more work is demanded, then maybe the pay should be increased accordingly, because they clearly were willing to pay the guy what he already got for the work he was already doing. And I would welcome all these idiot managers getting the boot because they're too busy playing politics and planning power grabs to spare a thought for what is happening in their own kingdoms. A great leader is a huge force multiplier for a team and we need opportunities for talent to get promoted.
- driscoll42 4y ago
  According to the article the person was missing stands and other meetings for "thunderstorms" and "power outages", and the mouse jiggler was the last straw. I think more likely there was concern about the employee and they looked into what the user was doing and saw this. So... the person "wasn't" achieving their work.

leereeves 4y ago

I wouldn't defend this, but I think the support for it comes from frustration with being surveilled and micromanaged by remote employers. There are too many jobs that care too much about squeezing employees for every possible minute of work, instead of letting performance be the proof.

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