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> It wasn't a genderbent Wolverine or Iron Man But Huntress (Helena Bertinelli) was a genderbent Batman. Supergirl is gender-bent Superman. In fact, every mal
by dragontamer 4y ago
> It wasn't a genderbent Wolverine or Iron Man
But Huntress (Helena Bertinelli) was a genderbent Batman. Supergirl is gender-bent Superman.
In fact, every male superhero has a female counterpart. Captain Marvel / Shazam has Mary Marvel. Superman has Supergirl. Batman has Batgirl, actually 3 different batgirls.
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The only question for "longtime DC Fans" for Batgirl is: are they doing Cassandra Cain or are they doing Barbara Gordon? There's like 3+ long-running batgirl stories that go back decades.
Besides, both Cassandra Cain and Barbara Gordon are both unique characters who take up the "Batgirl" costume to the disdain of Batman. Its not like the "obvious" genderswap version (Huntress / Helena Bertinelli) who was kind of "obviously" written to be a female-version of Batman.
Cassandra Cain is League of Assassins originally. She never learned proper language / speaking skills and is overcoming illiteracy. She's unsocialized, extremely awkward, etc. etc.
Barbara Gordon is Commissioner Gordon's daughter, and is often a bit campier as a result. (The Police Chief certainly doesn't want his daughter in danger, but she goes out and helps Batman anyway). She's more of a fangirl of Batman and arguably connects with female fans in a more natural way.
Neither Cassandra Cain nor Barbara Gordon are rich, nor powerful, nor CEOs. Cassandra Cain was "League of Assassin" trained before Batman was (it was an interesting twist to have them train him in the 2000s era films, but that's really Cassandra / Damian's story)
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The first "Batgirl" was in the 1960s, and "Barbara Gordon" version of Batgirl was all over the original 1960s campy "Batman" live action TV show.
There's literally 60+ years of Batgirl history here. Its suddenly weird to complain of wokeism when the character has such a long history in comics and TV.
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The only criticism I have, is that they didn't do Batgirl sooner. After all, there was the "Birds of Prey" movie, and Batgirl should have "graduated" into Oracle (her full-time superhero gig) for the Birds of Prey to get together. Batgirl is kind of the "awkward fangirl" thing she does as a kid. In my groups where I talk about comic books, everyone was wondering where the hell Oracle was in the Birds of Prey movie.
- jimmydorry 4y agoI was only referring to blockbuster movies, as that is what GP referred to and what the article was about. There are certainly many genderbent takes on super heroes in comic books. However, I can't think of any movies that took a superhero in a completely different direction that didn't flop.
- dragontamer 4y agoIs Batgirl a radically different direction in this movie than where she was historically? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n00xZ_mKQgk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n00xZ_mKQgk Or her first footage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQYwEuQJXQU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQYwEuQJXQU
- jimmydorry 4y agoWe won't know, as the movie got scrapped. But from what I saw people talking about, the main point of contention for this particular adaption appeared to be the "race swapping" of the main character. This version of the Bat Girl was being pushed as the first female hispanic super hero.