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It seems a bit odd to me to credit Total Commander but not a single one of Midnight Commander, Windows Commander, EF Commander, WinNC, PC Commander, SpeedComman

It seems a bit odd to me to credit Total Commander but not a single one of Midnight Commander, Windows Commander, EF Commander, WinNC, PC Commander, SpeedCommander, XCommander, XTree, YTree, ZTree, or the venerable Norton Commander. It even still uses the same hotkeys as Norton Commander. Still, it supports Total Commander's plugins in case someone is using those, it's LGPL, it looks like a decent example of a useable Free Pascal application to dive into contributing against, it's cross-platform (Windows, Linux, FreeBSD, macOS), and it builds against gtk2, qt4, or qt5. Overall it looks like a nice project. It could probably use a commit in the About page for a first contribution to the project noting a little more history of its lineage.

npteljes 4y ago
It's not odd, they are literally creating an upgraded Total Commander clone.
nathell 4y ago
Windows Commander was the former name of Total Commander. It changed the name in 2002 after Christian Ghisler received a cease-and-desist letter about trademark usage from Microsoft.
- cestith 4y ago
  Microsoft has been known to be perhaps overzealous in their trademark protection at times, but I think that's a valid complaint. It fills the same niche as Windows Explorer so confusion was quite possible. I always had Total Commander on my BartPE images back in the day.
notyourday 4y ago
This is missing vc - Volkov Commander - written in assembly. It was tiny, had amazingly complete functionality and was blazingly fast.
- cestith 4y ago
  Yes, sorry. I meant it to be illustrative of many of them being out there and influencing one another. I'm not sure I could put together a definitive list in the scope of an HN comment. vc was definitely worth mentioning, so thanks for bringing it up.
- ihateolives 4y ago
  There were more, eg DOS navigator, Far manager. The latter is still in development.
- warpech 4y ago
  I loved VC. Its tiny size (less than 100k) made it fit on any floppy disk, even when it was already almost full. It inspired me by showing how powerful our computers are. It was an order of magnitude smaller than NC, if I remember correctly. Here's some short story about VC: https://web.archive.org/web/20201027035410/http://www.softpanorama.org/OFM/Paradigm/Ch03/volkov_commander.shtml https://web.archive.org/web/20201027035410/http://www.softpa...
- IlliOnato 4y ago
  I loved Volcov commander. Apart from a tiny size and super-fast speed, I remember it could handle Cyrillic admirably, contrary to Norton Commander.
tambourine_man 4y ago
I looked for a Mac binary to download but there is none. You probably have to build it from source.
- deleted 4y ago
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- pwinnski 4y ago
  Or `brew install double-commander` which grabs a dmg from SourceForge. You'll have to right-click and Open it in the Finder's Applications folder to get past the fact that it's unsigned, but it seems to work an M1 running MacOS 12.4 (Monterey)
  - vasac 4y ago
    Yeah, but it will install older version. About a year ago they stopped publishing macOS binaries although you can still download nightly macOS builds but they won't cut official releases as they used to. Developer's explanation: https://doublecmd.h1n.ru/viewtopic.php?p=35121#p35121 https://doublecmd.h1n.ru/viewtopic.php?p=35121#p35121
  - meebee 4y ago
    I use DC on Mac and TC on Win. One of the problems with Mac DC is that the key reassignment don't use the standard Mac Control, Option, Command keys. They do map to the Win equivalents of Ctrl, Alt, Win keys but not always. And trying to override the Mac's almost hard key assignment of the F1-F12 keys is problematic.
badsectoracula 4y ago
Makes sense since Double Commander is literally a Total Commander clone, way more than Total Commander was a Norton Commander(, etc) clone :-P.
lucas_membrane 4y ago
Gnome commander is OK for me; where does it fit on the family tree? 'tis easier for me to let my eyeballs do the walking than to figure out and type a regex that is going to find just what I want.
themadturk 4y ago
FreeCommander is my go-to for Windows. Though I'm a Mac user at home, I'm stuck on Windows at work and paid for the 64-bit version of FreeCommander. File Manager seems to be some alien thing, and I still work with lots of files at work.
int_19h 4y ago
Then there's Far Manager, with is the thing if what you want is the classic blue TUI on Windows: https://farmanager.com/index.php?l=en https://farmanager.com/index.php?l=en
- MichaelMoser123 4y ago
  Far also has a lot of plug-ins, it has a community who do these!

npteljes 4y ago

It's not odd, they are literally creating an upgraded Total Commander clone.

nathell 4y ago

Windows Commander was the former name of Total Commander. It changed the name in 2002 after Christian Ghisler received a cease-and-desist letter about trademark usage from Microsoft.

cestith 4y ago
Microsoft has been known to be perhaps overzealous in their trademark protection at times, but I think that's a valid complaint. It fills the same niche as Windows Explorer so confusion was quite possible. I always had Total Commander on my BartPE images back in the day.

notyourday 4y ago

This is missing vc - Volkov Commander - written in assembly. It was tiny, had amazingly complete functionality and was blazingly fast.

cestith 4y ago
Yes, sorry. I meant it to be illustrative of many of them being out there and influencing one another. I'm not sure I could put together a definitive list in the scope of an HN comment. vc was definitely worth mentioning, so thanks for bringing it up.
ihateolives 4y ago
There were more, eg DOS navigator, Far manager. The latter is still in development.
warpech 4y ago
I loved VC. Its tiny size (less than 100k) made it fit on any floppy disk, even when it was already almost full. It inspired me by showing how powerful our computers are. It was an order of magnitude smaller than NC, if I remember correctly. Here's some short story about VC: https://web.archive.org/web/20201027035410/http://www.softpanorama.org/OFM/Paradigm/Ch03/volkov_commander.shtml https://web.archive.org/web/20201027035410/http://www.softpa...
IlliOnato 4y ago
I loved Volcov commander. Apart from a tiny size and super-fast speed, I remember it could handle Cyrillic admirably, contrary to Norton Commander.

tambourine_man 4y ago

I looked for a Mac binary to download but there is none. You probably have to build it from source.

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pwinnski 4y ago
Or `brew install double-commander` which grabs a dmg from SourceForge. You'll have to right-click and Open it in the Finder's Applications folder to get past the fact that it's unsigned, but it seems to work an M1 running MacOS 12.4 (Monterey)
- vasac 4y ago
  Yeah, but it will install older version. About a year ago they stopped publishing macOS binaries although you can still download nightly macOS builds but they won't cut official releases as they used to. Developer's explanation: https://doublecmd.h1n.ru/viewtopic.php?p=35121#p35121 https://doublecmd.h1n.ru/viewtopic.php?p=35121#p35121
- meebee 4y ago
  I use DC on Mac and TC on Win. One of the problems with Mac DC is that the key reassignment don't use the standard Mac Control, Option, Command keys. They do map to the Win equivalents of Ctrl, Alt, Win keys but not always. And trying to override the Mac's almost hard key assignment of the F1-F12 keys is problematic.

badsectoracula 4y ago

Makes sense since Double Commander is literally a Total Commander clone, way more than Total Commander was a Norton Commander(, etc) clone :-P.

lucas_membrane 4y ago

Gnome commander is OK for me; where does it fit on the family tree? 'tis easier for me to let my eyeballs do the walking than to figure out and type a regex that is going to find just what I want.

themadturk 4y ago

FreeCommander is my go-to for Windows. Though I'm a Mac user at home, I'm stuck on Windows at work and paid for the 64-bit version of FreeCommander. File Manager seems to be some alien thing, and I still work with lots of files at work.

int_19h 4y ago

Then there's Far Manager, with is the thing if what you want is the classic blue TUI on Windows: https://farmanager.com/index.php?l=en https://farmanager.com/index.php?l=en

MichaelMoser123 4y ago
Far also has a lot of plug-ins, it has a community who do these!