Interesting to hear this. I'm getting a bit annoyed about too much reliance on iOS/Android apps myself, but at least for most banks around here I still have the

Interesting to hear this. I'm getting a bit annoyed about too much reliance on iOS/Android apps myself, but at least for most banks around here I still have the option of alternatives. I do miss my printed out lists of verification numbers, but I could pay for SMS delivery or get one of those smartcard readers. Which, now that I looked it up, seem to be a German peculiarity. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transaction_authentication_number#ChipTAN_/_Sm@rt-TAN_/_CardTAN https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transaction_authentication_num... Another annoyance lately is traveling. I need two apps for the car sharing services, two for public transit, maybe another handful for scooters/bike rental etc.