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History of the Greek-Persian Wars: Interactive Map and Timeline
- kensai 4y agoIt is good, but given today’s interactive capabilities I somehow expected more. Still well done!
- nonoumasy 4y agoWhat other things were you expecting?
- pazimzadeh 4y ago-searching text -scroll without hovering over the text itself -not having to wait for each section to load when scrolling
- COGlory 4y agoCool idea, but not very well done. Basically the map zooms into one spot and then tells you about a bunch of other places that were involved that the map doesn't pan to. Also, the timelines are overlapping too much, for example it says something happened, then moves locations and says some other thing previously happened (that it just told you about). Finally, lots of little things thrown in at the end; "the Ionian revolt happened and Persia spent time and effort conquering them. [3 paragraphs] Also Persia was mad at Athens for helping which kicked off the war". Not built in a very narrative or easy to track way.
- brudgers 4y agoCurious if there is a better implementation?
- jimmySixDOF 4y agoWhile not map based this link is the best History-as-a-Timeline implementation I have stumbled across so far (desktop only) .... https://histography.io/ https://histography.io/
- spyremeown 4y agoVery cool! I'm getting some performance issues though (mb air 2018). Pretty low FPS.
- rendang 4y agoNice info, but where's the scroll bar?
- Andrew_nenakhov 4y agoNice idea, but the app autoscrolls every few seconds on mobile Firefox making it unusable.
- nonoumasy 4y agoNot sure why it's autoscrolling. I haven't seen that issue before and also the play feature is disabled on mobile. Which phone and os do you have? I'll try to reproduce the issue.
- Andrew_nenakhov 4y agoI think this happened when I pressed play. Also works the same on Desktop. Smetana's music is nice, but the resource becomes unusable as it scrolls and scrolls to new chapters. In can record a video of you want.
- nonoumasy 4y agoSure that would be great if you can record it. But how are you able to press play on mobile Firefox. I hid the button on mobile. Are you accessing that using Firefox dev tools? Btw, it's suppose to autoscroll on Play. That is the feature. Its what I call the 'storyteller mode'. I am thinking of using text-to-speech to read each event before proceeding to the next event so the 5 second delay is an arbitrary setting for now. If you don't want the autoscroll, then you can just scroll the old fashion way on the sidebar. When you do the map will flyTo() the corresponding event.
- Andrew_nenakhov 4y agoI just press the "play" button right in the center, music starts playing and everything starts jumping around. Try this link for video: https://www.dropbox.com/s/nq0y4mywomv5vd1/20220806_024731.mp4?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/nq0y4mywomv5vd1/20220806_024731.mp...
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- n8cpdx 4y agoVery cool project, but as others have said there are performance issues even on high end devices. Full disclosure: I work for Esri, a competitor to Mapbox. This probably could have been implemented more quickly and easily, with better usability and performance, via StoryMaps or ArcGIS StoryMaps. The product is tailor-made for exactly this sort of website/project. https://storymaps.com/ https://storymaps.com/
- lagrange77 4y agoEven though it's pretty invasive, i love the image onclick fullscreen display along with the clicking sound.
- nonoumasy 4y agoThanks. I'm still rethinking that. It was a quick solution to show the images especially the otherImages(which are predominantly other map images) full screen. There's value in seeing the details up close. But I might try a different design, maybe a carousel in the future.
- nonoumasy 4y agobtw, why do you think it's invasive? in what sense?
- lagrange77 4y agoMaking the browser window fullscreen, while the user is not clicking on a fullscreen button.
- nonoumasy 4y agoI see. So adding a fullscreen button instead of the cursor: zoom makes it non-invasive?
- lagrange77 4y agoI would say so, yes.
- AtlasBarfed 4y agoAnd the Persians were sowing the seeds of their destruction, as Alexander and the Macedonian phalanx marched across their lands 100 years later
- nonoumasy 4y agohttps://history-maps.com/story/Conquests-of-Alexander-the-Great https://history-maps.com/story/Conquests-of-Alexander-the-Gr...
- geraneum 4y agoI think the reality could have been more nuanced that this. Persians were the prominent tribe in Achaemenid empire which was destroyed by Alexander. But remainder of Persians among other tribes that formed the empire later on freed themselves from Macedonian rule and eventually and gradually pushed them out. Even though the Macedonians occupied the land, they adopted the form of government and were influenced by the culture and Persian way of life. They themselves also had an influence on those empires, naturally. Unfortunately the website is lacking in painting a comprehensive picture of Persian or those other tribes that formed the Persian empire or perhaps I couldn’t find it.
- nonoumasy 4y agoThis is perhaps a limitation on the story since its about Alexander, so obviously it more from the Macedonian or even from Alexanders point of view. The story is Alexander-centric. I do plan on creating other History maps on the Ancient Persian empires: Achaemenid Empire, Parthian Empire, Sassanian Empire, Seleucid Empire Would love some feedback when those are done. Thanks for the constructive feedback. I always appreciate those.
- geraneum 4y agoKudos for the effort of creating this nice website. I enjoyed your way of laying out the events. That will be awesome to read more about those pieces of history in the form of this website. Well appreciated.
- xhevahir 4y agoThis reminds me there's a book, The Landmark Herodotus, that has lots of maps detailing the geography treated in the text, including the story of the Greco-Persian Wars; I've got another book in the series (the Thucydides one) and the maps are really nice.
- nonoumasy 4y agoThanks for that suggestion. Since Thucydides wrote "History of the Peloponnesian War", you might also like this: https://history-maps.com/story/Peloponnesian-War https://history-maps.com/story/Peloponnesian-War
- nikolay 4y agoThere wasn't a Greece back then to call these wars "Greco".
- nonoumasy 4y agoIncidentally, I just finished the History of Greece HistoryMap: https://history-maps.com/story/History-of-Greece https://history-maps.com/story/History-of-Greece
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- jeanlucas 4y agoMy dream in web development since 2012 is to have a way to represent timelines well. They are not easy and they are not intuitive. Unfortunately I never had the chance of a paying project that involved timelines, or libraries around it.
- nonoumasy 4y agoI guess it depends on how you implement timelines. They can be as simple (as one line) or complex (multiple lines + categories + filter) as you want. I created a Timelines Game using the same HM data: https://timelines-ruby.vercel.app/ https://timelines-ruby.vercel.app/