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I think giving people (not local governments) money would typically help them develop faster than deciding for them what to spend the money on. But a country ca

I think giving people (not local governments) money would typically help them develop faster than deciding for them what to spend the money on. But a country can’t develop without decent institutions and I agree that you have to work around the constraints created by governmental corruption.

throwaway0a5e 4y ago
>I think giving people (not local governments) money And what stops the local government from trying to take a big cut?
- ChadNauseam 4y ago
  good question, maybe you give the money continuously (every month or so) and commit to stop giving it if the local government tries to take too big a cut – then their incentive to start taking a cut would be limited
- hulitu 4y ago
  corruption.
- DubiousPusher 4y ago
  You realize corrupt indivisuala and governments get their fingers into the specific aid that flows through NGOs as well right?
  - throwaway0a5e 4y ago
    Of course. But you plant an liquid asset somewhere and the best they can do is tax it. You move fungible stuff like money or staple grains around and a lot more is going to evaporate along the way.
    - tdeck 4y ago
      They can force you to hire their contractors for construction and delivery, at an exorbitant price to fund kickbacks. They can have you install infrastructure on public land and then seize that land and use it for an aristocrat's private residence. They can restrict the places you can build infrastructure to provinces that recently favored the ruling party to curry political favor. There are plenty of ways for despots to profit off of "development" projects beyond taxation.
- replygirl 4y ago
  look up your senators' investments!
eurasiantiger 4y ago
I agree on the principle: giving money to people whose personal development is hindered by poverty obviously allows them to overcome the hindrance. However, this does not mean that giving money to people is going to make those people want to develop themselves and their surroundings, unless they are already in the process of doing so.
- DubiousPusher 4y ago
  The British ca. 1910 would certainly agree.

throwaway0a5e 4y ago

>I think giving people (not local governments) money And what stops the local government from trying to take a big cut?

ChadNauseam 4y ago
good question, maybe you give the money continuously (every month or so) and commit to stop giving it if the local government tries to take too big a cut – then their incentive to start taking a cut would be limited
hulitu 4y ago
corruption.
DubiousPusher 4y ago
You realize corrupt indivisuala and governments get their fingers into the specific aid that flows through NGOs as well right?
- throwaway0a5e 4y ago
  Of course. But you plant an liquid asset somewhere and the best they can do is tax it. You move fungible stuff like money or staple grains around and a lot more is going to evaporate along the way.
  - tdeck 4y ago
    They can force you to hire their contractors for construction and delivery, at an exorbitant price to fund kickbacks. They can have you install infrastructure on public land and then seize that land and use it for an aristocrat's private residence. They can restrict the places you can build infrastructure to provinces that recently favored the ruling party to curry political favor. There are plenty of ways for despots to profit off of "development" projects beyond taxation.
replygirl 4y ago
look up your senators' investments!

eurasiantiger 4y ago

I agree on the principle: giving money to people whose personal development is hindered by poverty obviously allows them to overcome the hindrance. However, this does not mean that giving money to people is going to make those people want to develop themselves and their surroundings, unless they are already in the process of doing so.

DubiousPusher 4y ago
The British ca. 1910 would certainly agree.