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Thanks to EU, now we have to confirm consent banners before going into any website.

by m00dy 4y ago

ben_w 4y ago
Except for those sites that don't track you. Try opening this website in a private session. Or GitHub.
Angostura 4y ago
No. The are simple rules that say you can only collect data vital for delivering the service - anything else needs explicit opt-in. Developers - not the EU - have created monstrous modal windows that assume consent unless you opt out. Most of these would be unlawful under GDPR.
- m00dy 4y ago
  one question, Who is responsible for the consent windows ?
  - Angostura 4y ago
    The developers that put them on the site. There is no need for them if you are only using cookies directed needed for the provision of the site (as opposed to data gathering for advertising partners, for example). Hope that helps.
    - beidnnwuudu 4y ago
      Even when not required under GDPR, those banners may be required under the EU e-Privacy Directive (2009/136/EC ).
      - jeroenhd 4y ago
        Even under the e-Privacy directive cookies strictly required for a website's technical functionality are permissible. Session cookies and such don't need banner. However, including third party services or analytics and tracking can quickly prompt a cookie banner because those are not strictly necessary for a website to function.
    - perryizgr8 4y ago
      > There is no need for them I agree. They should undo the law that created an artificial need.
      - ben_w 4y ago
        It wasn't a law which created that need: many people don't want to be tracked even if there wasn't a law that banned you from doing so. Normal people find it creepy and weird if someone (or something) knows too much. For example, I know a person who posted a photo of signpost on social media and explicitly challenged their friends to guess where they were, and even then they were disturbed when I posted a google street view link to that exact signpost 30 minutes later. Showing them that Amazon searches for things they would not otherwise even look at resulted in adverts (for the specific product they looked at) appearing a few weeks later, was also something they found disturbing. (As Amazon didn't get their explicit and meaningful consent for this use of their data, I assume they no longer do this, but I can't tell given my ad blockers).
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raverbashing 4y ago
> While creating the cookie law, lawmakers understood that some cookies are literally required in order for the site to function properly. For this reason, they created exemptions that cookies that are functionally required don’t need to be consented to in order to be used. Literally in TFA
simion314 4y ago
Thanks to US we now have to Click I am over 18 when visiting porn websites. The GDPR popups will appear only on websites that track you, and I found the first honest website so far bbc.news they give you a clear reason and a simple way to opt out, not sure if it will appear for you , the message is "BBC.com would like permission to share your personal data with our ad partners to allow them to show you ads tailored to your interests" Hope is OBVIOUS, they want to share PERSONAL data with random ad "partners", the popup would not be needed if their ads would not include tracking.
DarkWiiPlayer 4y ago
Imagine this argument for any other situation where consent is required. It's ridiculous.

Thanks to EU, now we have to confirm consent banners before going into any website.

by m00dy 4y ago

Thanks to EU, now we have to confirm consent banners before going into any website.

ben_w 4y ago

Except for those sites that don't track you. Try opening this website in a private session. Or GitHub.

Angostura 4y ago

No. The are simple rules that say you can only collect data vital for delivering the service - anything else needs explicit opt-in. Developers - not the EU - have created monstrous modal windows that assume consent unless you opt out. Most of these would be unlawful under GDPR.

m00dy 4y ago
one question, Who is responsible for the consent windows ?
- Angostura 4y ago
  The developers that put them on the site. There is no need for them if you are only using cookies directed needed for the provision of the site (as opposed to data gathering for advertising partners, for example). Hope that helps.
  - beidnnwuudu 4y ago
    Even when not required under GDPR, those banners may be required under the EU e-Privacy Directive (2009/136/EC ).
    - jeroenhd 4y ago
      Even under the e-Privacy directive cookies strictly required for a website's technical functionality are permissible. Session cookies and such don't need banner. However, including third party services or analytics and tracking can quickly prompt a cookie banner because those are not strictly necessary for a website to function.
  - perryizgr8 4y ago
    > There is no need for them I agree. They should undo the law that created an artificial need.
    - ben_w 4y ago
      It wasn't a law which created that need: many people don't want to be tracked even if there wasn't a law that banned you from doing so. Normal people find it creepy and weird if someone (or something) knows too much. For example, I know a person who posted a photo of signpost on social media and explicitly challenged their friends to guess where they were, and even then they were disturbed when I posted a google street view link to that exact signpost 30 minutes later. Showing them that Amazon searches for things they would not otherwise even look at resulted in adverts (for the specific product they looked at) appearing a few weeks later, was also something they found disturbing. (As Amazon didn't get their explicit and meaningful consent for this use of their data, I assume they no longer do this, but I can't tell given my ad blockers).

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raverbashing 4y ago

> While creating the cookie law, lawmakers understood that some cookies are literally required in order for the site to function properly. For this reason, they created exemptions that cookies that are functionally required don’t need to be consented to in order to be used. Literally in TFA

simion314 4y ago

Thanks to US we now have to Click I am over 18 when visiting porn websites. The GDPR popups will appear only on websites that track you, and I found the first honest website so far bbc.news they give you a clear reason and a simple way to opt out, not sure if it will appear for you , the message is "BBC.com would like permission to share your personal data with our ad partners to allow them to show you ads tailored to your interests" Hope is OBVIOUS, they want to share PERSONAL data with random ad "partners", the popup would not be needed if their ads would not include tracking.

DarkWiiPlayer 4y ago

Imagine this argument for any other situation where consent is required. It's ridiculous.