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It'd be practically impossible to enforce the 'privacy' concerns, because the data is so vast and accessible to CCP entities employed by ByteDance. I mean, they
by jollybean 4y ago
It'd be practically impossible to enforce the 'privacy' concerns, because the data is so vast and accessible to CCP entities employed by ByteDance. I mean, they literally pay CCP members to promote government policy agenda within the company.
As for trade - FB, Google etc. - none of it is even allowed in China. So purely from a 'trade parity' basis, Chinese social apps simply should not be allowed in the US. If we can't have apps 'there' then our policy should be 'tit for tat' and do the same thing our side.
- angio 4y agoTechnically US companies are allowed in China as long as they follow the local regulations (which probably involves following Chinese National Security Letters etc). What OP proposes and the EU is doing is to allow anyone in the market as long as they follow strong privacy laws. Existing apps can defend themselves in court and only get banned after a sentence from a judge.
- vorpalhex 4y agoThe specific regulation is having a Chinese Communist Party member on the board and having the owner be a Chinese citizen.
- simion314 4y ago>It'd be practically impossible to enforce the 'privacy' concerns, But US would first need a law, now you just surrendered before you even tried. It could be possible to enforce it, you find an illegal action you slap them with a fine, find a new infraction slap them again and again. Do I need to spend my time thinking for americans? Make a law so Tik Tok keeps US people data in US, force them to have US employees and offer a bounty to this employees to report illegal stuff. The only downside is that most US citizens and companies will have no choice then to accept EU privacy laws as really good and valid (but I am sure the world can find soem other laws to make fun off, like something about bananas shape).
- jollybean 4y ago"Do I need to spend my time thinking for americans? " Only if makes sense, and unfortunately, I don't think it does in this case. Which is the point: TikTok can't really be TikTok with those laws in place. There's no way to make any US or European privacy laws gel with CCP policy and there's no realistic way to 'segregate the data'. The only 'solution' would be to have a complete and total separation of the app in almost every way, essentially meaning TT as an operating entity would be an American/Western company, which happens to be 'owned' by a company in China, but that's it. Literally everything else, except for maybe some code-sharing, would be completely different.
- simion314 4y agoThen EU would have to do the same for FB, Goolge,Apple and americans will have to stop complaining about protectionism every time we give those giants a fine for doing bad things.
- jollybean 4y agoThe EU is not capable of producing it's own FB, Google and Apple, and those 'bad things' they do are are very marginal. FB selling ads to people and allowing agencies to 'target' people based on whatever just isn't causing a lot of harm to anyone. Nobody in Europe is being 'put off' because they're seeing Kid's Clothing ads because they are parents. I mean, it's odd, but not that bad. The American Gov. are not going after Europeans for arbitrary reasons. If the NSA is targeting a European for something, you can be sure it already rises to the level of 'international shenanigans' anyhow, and that probably something is very wrong. FB could very well remove the possibility for the NSA to directly get data on some random European but it largely won't make a difference. Right now, the CCP has access to anything they want, for any reason they want, including arbitrary malicious things such as harassing NGOs etc..