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I'd like PHP more were it not for the army of amateur programmers hacking wordpress.

by zanethomas 4y ago

bdcravens 4y ago
How does that impact the code you can write?
- zanethomas 4y ago
  I often get called in to fix things which are horribly broken.
  - eggsmediumrare 4y ago
    That's a funny way of spelling job security
    - zanethomas 4y ago
      Hahaha I'm freelance (aka ronin) and so the job security is actually a bit spotty. :)
      - xupybd 4y ago
        Ouch that is the worst. Called in to a great big mess. I hope by the time you get called in they realize they need to invest in some clean up time.
        zanethomas 4y ago
        "They" have usually been very grateful to have the disaster mopped up.
    - redml 4y ago
      job security in software development isn't a problem especially since the pandemic started, if you're working on crappy code its because you're choosing to at this point
      - zanethomas 4y ago
        You know nothing about the choices I make and your condescending manner is rather insulting. I've been a paid programmer for over 40 years. When some code has seriously gone off the rails I can help.
tobinfekkes 4y ago
Not every Wordpress developer is an amateur. Often times, as a programmer, it's easier for me to change my environment, language, or learn their stack to be helpful to them than it is for the company to switch their stack because of my unwavering views on "right" languages.
- zanethomas 4y ago
  True fact, but in my experience there is some really shoddy wordpress code in the wild.
  - tobinfekkes 4y ago
    I agree. But no developer starts writing unshoddy code right away. There's a lot of really great developers that got their feet wet with dev work because Wordpress is immediately accessible and helpful. They just needed a playground to write shoddy code before they matured and perfected their craft. In my opinion, I'd rather people write shoddy code and improve it than wait until they've ready enough books to write perfect code, but never actually start. Doing something subpar now is often better than waiting till it's perfect and not doing it at all.

I'd like PHP more were it not for the army of amateur programmers hacking wordpress.

bdcravens 4y ago

How does that impact the code you can write?

zanethomas 4y ago
I often get called in to fix things which are horribly broken.
- eggsmediumrare 4y ago
  That's a funny way of spelling job security
  - zanethomas 4y ago
    Hahaha I'm freelance (aka ronin) and so the job security is actually a bit spotty. :)
    - xupybd 4y ago
      Ouch that is the worst. Called in to a great big mess. I hope by the time you get called in they realize they need to invest in some clean up time.
      - zanethomas 4y ago
        "They" have usually been very grateful to have the disaster mopped up.
  - redml 4y ago
    job security in software development isn't a problem especially since the pandemic started, if you're working on crappy code its because you're choosing to at this point
    - zanethomas 4y ago
      You know nothing about the choices I make and your condescending manner is rather insulting. I've been a paid programmer for over 40 years. When some code has seriously gone off the rails I can help.

tobinfekkes 4y ago

Not every Wordpress developer is an amateur. Often times, as a programmer, it's easier for me to change my environment, language, or learn their stack to be helpful to them than it is for the company to switch their stack because of my unwavering views on "right" languages.

zanethomas 4y ago
True fact, but in my experience there is some really shoddy wordpress code in the wild.
- tobinfekkes 4y ago
  I agree. But no developer starts writing unshoddy code right away. There's a lot of really great developers that got their feet wet with dev work because Wordpress is immediately accessible and helpful. They just needed a playground to write shoddy code before they matured and perfected their craft. In my opinion, I'd rather people write shoddy code and improve it than wait until they've ready enough books to write perfect code, but never actually start. Doing something subpar now is often better than waiting till it's perfect and not doing it at all.