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Prompt crafting is quickly becoming an art. I just found out yesterday that there's actually market places for buying and selling prompts [0]. It can really mak

Prompt crafting is quickly becoming an art. I just found out yesterday that there's actually market places for buying and selling prompts [0]. It can really make a big difference if you can tune the image by adding the right words. Midjourney [1] even allows things such as adjusting the weight of each keyword or how "literal" the AI should take your prompt. [0] https://promptbase.com/ https://promptbase.com/ [1] https://midjourney.gitbook.io/docs/user-manual https://midjourney.gitbook.io/docs/user-manual

memish 4y ago
Does anyone know what kind of prompt generates such clean, consistent results like these? https://promptbase.com/prompt/clay-emojis https://promptbase.com/prompt/clay-emojis https://promptbase.com/prompt/polygon-animals https://promptbase.com/prompt/polygon-animals
- moralestapia 4y ago
  That's why you have to pay $1.99.
  - danielbln 4y ago
    After sharing and enjoying people share their prompts in various communities for 2-3 months, I hate this business model.
    - detritus 4y ago
      Why? You can still do what you want to do - this sort of thing just helps people who perhaps don't have the ability or inclination to capably form their own concepts. It's much like hiring a painter, a writer or a web designer... . At least, it's interesting for me to see what may be the beginnings of a new job class. I've been wondering where all this ML/AI business might take us.
      - danielbln 4y ago
        Because it provides an incentive to not share knowledge, but instead hide it behind micro transactions.
        detritus 4y ago
        For some, sure - but I've derived far more for free on the internet over my 25 years on it than I have ever paid for, and I don't imagine that'd change here.
- pjgalbraith 4y ago
  Here's a trick for this use Google image search. That will give you various descriptions of similar images. Then use those descriptions in your prompt. Some similar examples below but you will need to engineer the prompt a bit more to get it exactly the same. https://labs.openai.com/s/17hZFpqYi57LLYCW0dKirEqp https://labs.openai.com/s/17hZFpqYi57LLYCW0dKirEqp https://labs.openai.com/s/YDVak2MB7uERVsZ8eceEhqE4 https://labs.openai.com/s/YDVak2MB7uERVsZ8eceEhqE4
- andybak 4y ago
  Try “A brightly coloured, detailed icon of an [x] emoji, 3D low poly render, isometric perspective on white background”
autoexec 4y ago
That's kind of depressing really. It's like paying someone for google search terms. I remember when the internet was full of sites filled with interesting and effective google search terms (called "dorks") but nobody was charging $2 for each one, they were just sharing something cool with the world and helping everyone use the tool more effectively.
- ehsankia 4y ago
  I don't really agree with your take. First off, the PDF in this very post, as well as promptwiki link posted elsewhere in the comments, shows that there are definitely people doing this for free too. As for your analogy, I'd say it's closer to paying someone to help you find something obscure and hard to find on Google. Anything that requires skill and time to do should be allowed to be monetized. Of course, as you mention, there will always be people doing and posting it for free, but I don't see why people shouldn't be able to make money from something they've taken time to master. Dall-E is a tool, and this is like hiring an expert that can use that tool effectively. It's no different than hiring someone to Photoshop something for you, or more precisely here, paying to download/license premade Photoshop content someone put time and effort creating.
  - autoexec 4y ago
    > As for your analogy, I'd say it's closer to paying someone to help you find something obscure and hard to find on Google. That's exactly what google dorks were. Google started out as a great search engine, but it's also a tool and 'Google Fu' was a real thing. Anyone could easily find song lyrics and news articles. It took effort (time and skill) to understand how google worked and how to format searches to get the results you were interested in for many obscure types of data. I'm not suggesting that people shouldn't have been allowed to charge for Google search terms, only that unlike today making a fast dollar wasn't anyone's first priority. A marketplace for Google search terms might have been just as successful, but it never happened and I'd like to think we were all better off for it. Instead that information was shared freely and widely to anyone interested and it served us well for many years until Google degraded their product by no longer following their own rules and much of that became useless. I'd argue that this is much less like paying someone to create something in photoshop (Here you give the right commands, DALL·E 2 does all the work) and much more like charging for a tutorial on how to use photoshop to achieve certain effects (You follow the right steps, photoshop does all the work). There's nothing wrong with charging for tutorials (many do and have done), and I'm glad that there are still people willing to share what they've learned without throwing up a paywall, but the rush to monetize here was shockingly fast. An entire infrastructure was put into place to support buyers, sellers, purchases, featured products, and payments before many even had a chance to try this new tool for themselves. I see it as a reflection of how much the culture of the internet has changed. The commercialization of the web has become so pervasive that many people can't imagine an internet without a profit incentive (often expressed as some form of 'the internet couldn't exist without ads!' or 'No one would create content if they aren't getting paid to do it!'), but those of us who are older will remember a healthy and thriving internet that existed long before it was commercialized and how many useful, popular, and helpful websites and services were created and maintained without any thought given to "Yeah, but what's in it for me?" and the overall vibe on the internet was about sharing (or more cynically, showing off) vs making money.

memish 4y ago

Does anyone know what kind of prompt generates such clean, consistent results like these? https://promptbase.com/prompt/clay-emojis https://promptbase.com/prompt/clay-emojis https://promptbase.com/prompt/polygon-animals https://promptbase.com/prompt/polygon-animals

moralestapia 4y ago
That's why you have to pay $1.99.
- danielbln 4y ago
  After sharing and enjoying people share their prompts in various communities for 2-3 months, I hate this business model.
  - detritus 4y ago
    Why? You can still do what you want to do - this sort of thing just helps people who perhaps don't have the ability or inclination to capably form their own concepts. It's much like hiring a painter, a writer or a web designer... . At least, it's interesting for me to see what may be the beginnings of a new job class. I've been wondering where all this ML/AI business might take us.
    - danielbln 4y ago
      Because it provides an incentive to not share knowledge, but instead hide it behind micro transactions.
      - detritus 4y ago
        For some, sure - but I've derived far more for free on the internet over my 25 years on it than I have ever paid for, and I don't imagine that'd change here.
pjgalbraith 4y ago
Here's a trick for this use Google image search. That will give you various descriptions of similar images. Then use those descriptions in your prompt. Some similar examples below but you will need to engineer the prompt a bit more to get it exactly the same. https://labs.openai.com/s/17hZFpqYi57LLYCW0dKirEqp https://labs.openai.com/s/17hZFpqYi57LLYCW0dKirEqp https://labs.openai.com/s/YDVak2MB7uERVsZ8eceEhqE4 https://labs.openai.com/s/YDVak2MB7uERVsZ8eceEhqE4
andybak 4y ago
Try “A brightly coloured, detailed icon of an [x] emoji, 3D low poly render, isometric perspective on white background”

autoexec 4y ago

That's kind of depressing really. It's like paying someone for google search terms. I remember when the internet was full of sites filled with interesting and effective google search terms (called "dorks") but nobody was charging $2 for each one, they were just sharing something cool with the world and helping everyone use the tool more effectively.

ehsankia 4y ago
I don't really agree with your take. First off, the PDF in this very post, as well as promptwiki link posted elsewhere in the comments, shows that there are definitely people doing this for free too. As for your analogy, I'd say it's closer to paying someone to help you find something obscure and hard to find on Google. Anything that requires skill and time to do should be allowed to be monetized. Of course, as you mention, there will always be people doing and posting it for free, but I don't see why people shouldn't be able to make money from something they've taken time to master. Dall-E is a tool, and this is like hiring an expert that can use that tool effectively. It's no different than hiring someone to Photoshop something for you, or more precisely here, paying to download/license premade Photoshop content someone put time and effort creating.
- autoexec 4y ago
  > As for your analogy, I'd say it's closer to paying someone to help you find something obscure and hard to find on Google. That's exactly what google dorks were. Google started out as a great search engine, but it's also a tool and 'Google Fu' was a real thing. Anyone could easily find song lyrics and news articles. It took effort (time and skill) to understand how google worked and how to format searches to get the results you were interested in for many obscure types of data. I'm not suggesting that people shouldn't have been allowed to charge for Google search terms, only that unlike today making a fast dollar wasn't anyone's first priority. A marketplace for Google search terms might have been just as successful, but it never happened and I'd like to think we were all better off for it. Instead that information was shared freely and widely to anyone interested and it served us well for many years until Google degraded their product by no longer following their own rules and much of that became useless. I'd argue that this is much less like paying someone to create something in photoshop (Here you give the right commands, DALL·E 2 does all the work) and much more like charging for a tutorial on how to use photoshop to achieve certain effects (You follow the right steps, photoshop does all the work). There's nothing wrong with charging for tutorials (many do and have done), and I'm glad that there are still people willing to share what they've learned without throwing up a paywall, but the rush to monetize here was shockingly fast. An entire infrastructure was put into place to support buyers, sellers, purchases, featured products, and payments before many even had a chance to try this new tool for themselves. I see it as a reflection of how much the culture of the internet has changed. The commercialization of the web has become so pervasive that many people can't imagine an internet without a profit incentive (often expressed as some form of 'the internet couldn't exist without ads!' or 'No one would create content if they aren't getting paid to do it!'), but those of us who are older will remember a healthy and thriving internet that existed long before it was commercialized and how many useful, popular, and helpful websites and services were created and maintained without any thought given to "Yeah, but what's in it for me?" and the overall vibe on the internet was about sharing (or more cynically, showing off) vs making money.