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> A person should be advantaged on the basis of their race, if a racist's perception of their race has been the cause of centuries of disadvantage already. I d
by zzo38computer 4y ago
> A person should be advantaged on the basis of their race, if a racist's perception of their race has been the cause of centuries of disadvantage already.
I do not agree, although there is also the consideration if the centuries of disadvantage continues even today, or not. If it does continue today, then it should be worth to mitigate such disadvantages, in order that such a disadvantage should soon be stopped, but that is not necessarily meaning that you should need to gain more advantages too.
Even so there is different way to be grouping, by race, by what language(s) you can speak/write, etc. But, you are individual person too. Don't be forced or group into something if you did not do it just because someone else does (e.g. people who have the same name as you, or with similar skin colours than you, or religions than you, etc).
They should have diversity, but the method for doing so should not be to force it, or to require certain quotas, etc. But, they should let them in. After that is happening, then you can see what is the result, I suppose.
You should not judge something that you do not know, before it is done; otherwise the judgment cannot be possible. This is the case whether it is racist or not. Unfortunately they too often ignore you because it is something that is not as they say is "normal". Sometimes this is legitimate but not always and so you should not make the early judgment, instead the late judgment is going to be better.
They say that "diversity encourages students to question their own assumptions, to test received truths, and to appreciate the complexity of the modern world", and yes this is necessary too; you can question anything. It is true if you have diversity or not, but being diversity can be helpful. However, you will have diversity whether or not they are visibly difference by race, etc, although that is one thing being diversity too it is not the only thing.
But, if Yale wants to accept certain people, they can do so, as long as it is not a monopoly then they can be accepted into other universities hopefully. (Whether or not they should reject certain people is a different question, though, than if they can be allowed to do so.) If nobody will accept them, then it is a real problem. If course materials can be copied, then it is helpful then you should not need to be accepted everywhere if you can read them anyways; but, unfortunately there is too much copyright and other thing, which can also be a problem.
> Beginning to repair that inequity is not racist.
Yes I agree, it is not inherently racist. But, that does not necessarily mean that none of the methods for doing so might be racist.
> What is racist is to think you're inherently better than them, which is what many people who want to end affirmative action believe.
Do you have the citation about it (as someone else asked, too)?
> More people, overall, get elevated to the highest levels of academia as a result of these programs.
OK, then that will be good, but does it result in any excluding people? It should not exclude someone for reasons that are no good, though.
You say "for the kids who get bumped out of Yale, many other doors remain open". If that work, if there are enough other university in that area, which are of a good quality (for the specific kind of courses they wish to take), then it is good, but as I mention above, such things as copyright can still be the problem too.
The statistics also must be considered properly. You must consider the correlations, including the variables you know and those that you do not know. The reason why they result certain things also should be considered, like any good scientific experiment ought to do.
Some people in other comment suggested other policies, e.g. dramatically reduce homework, it can help black people too. Well, if too many homework is not helpful (actually, from my experience in school, I agree that too many homework is not helpful) then I do think that it would be helpful to be reduced, whether it specifically helps black people or not; as long as it is not harming black people (or other people).