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…because the infrastructure is not meant to withstand extreme weather. It’s unreasonable to expect a blizzard in southern Texas. It would be unreasonalbe to ex

…because the infrastructure is not meant to withstand extreme weather. It’s unreasonable to expect a blizzard in southern Texas. It would be unreasonalbe to expect snow in Miami. No country could deal with it. It’s not a US problem.

digdugdirk 4y ago
Its definitely not an unreasonable expectation. In fact, its usually a crucial aspect of the design decisions made in the planning of that infrastructure. Texas' grid failure was absolutely a planning/operations failure and should have had the capacity to operate during a blizzard. (And extended heat waves, too. But still a hypothetical for now)
- sgjohnson 4y ago
  But it was not just a power grid failure. It was a widespread infrastructure failure that ultimately caused the power grid to fail too. > The widespread winter storm produced low temperatures across the region. This is an unusual event, much worse than the worst case that was considered in recent prior planning. The result was loss of power plants, loss of natural gas supply, felled power transmission lines, damaged gas pipelines, damage to water systems, and so on, across the board. There was a loss of more than 50 percent of generation capacity at the same moment as electric power demand surged above the predicted peak forecast.
anigbrowl 4y ago
Infrastructure should be the most resilient part of the system, that's why your organs are mostly surrounded by your ribcage and your arteries are on the inner side of your limbs. How are you going to recover from any given disaster if your infrastructure is too unreliable to deliver resources? Sure you assess probabilities in your design, but not to the point of assuming the most probable outcome will always obtain. If there's only a 2% probability of some unwanted outcome need to consider not only the probability but what's at risk if your probability assessment turns out to be wrong, and make sure at least some of your infrastructure is bomb proof. It's unreasonable to expect those things as the norm, it's not at all unreasonable to expect that they might occur and have some sort of contingency plan in place. You'd have to have been living under a rock for the last 30 years to ignore the possibility of freak weather events.
- sgjohnson 4y ago
  > that's why your organs are mostly surrounded by your ribcage and your arteries are on the inner side of your limbs Yes, but it would be unreasonable to expect my ribcage to withstand a 12 gauge buckshot from point blank range. You could argue that I could wear a bulletproof vest. That would stop the said 12 gauge buckshot blast, but would it be reasonable to wear it in the first place?
  - msmenardi 4y ago
    Right, but as we enter the era of climate change it's beginning to feel like going vest-less in a warzone.

digdugdirk 4y ago

Its definitely not an unreasonable expectation. In fact, its usually a crucial aspect of the design decisions made in the planning of that infrastructure. Texas' grid failure was absolutely a planning/operations failure and should have had the capacity to operate during a blizzard. (And extended heat waves, too. But still a hypothetical for now)

sgjohnson 4y ago
But it was not just a power grid failure. It was a widespread infrastructure failure that ultimately caused the power grid to fail too. > The widespread winter storm produced low temperatures across the region. This is an unusual event, much worse than the worst case that was considered in recent prior planning. The result was loss of power plants, loss of natural gas supply, felled power transmission lines, damaged gas pipelines, damage to water systems, and so on, across the board. There was a loss of more than 50 percent of generation capacity at the same moment as electric power demand surged above the predicted peak forecast.

anigbrowl 4y ago

Infrastructure should be the most resilient part of the system, that's why your organs are mostly surrounded by your ribcage and your arteries are on the inner side of your limbs. How are you going to recover from any given disaster if your infrastructure is too unreliable to deliver resources? Sure you assess probabilities in your design, but not to the point of assuming the most probable outcome will always obtain. If there's only a 2% probability of some unwanted outcome need to consider not only the probability but what's at risk if your probability assessment turns out to be wrong, and make sure at least some of your infrastructure is bomb proof. It's unreasonable to expect those things as the norm, it's not at all unreasonable to expect that they might occur and have some sort of contingency plan in place. You'd have to have been living under a rock for the last 30 years to ignore the possibility of freak weather events.

sgjohnson 4y ago
> that's why your organs are mostly surrounded by your ribcage and your arteries are on the inner side of your limbs Yes, but it would be unreasonable to expect my ribcage to withstand a 12 gauge buckshot from point blank range. You could argue that I could wear a bulletproof vest. That would stop the said 12 gauge buckshot blast, but would it be reasonable to wear it in the first place?
- msmenardi 4y ago
  Right, but as we enter the era of climate change it's beginning to feel like going vest-less in a warzone.