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I guess - I would also guess that one not getting promoted might also be related to the lack skills at leadership, etc. Given his thoughts on leadership: We

I guess - I would also guess that one not getting promoted might also be related to the lack skills at leadership, etc. Given his thoughts on leadership: Well, my theory is that all leadership is a form of evil, because the whole point of managing people is getting them to do stuff they don’t want to do on their own. You don’t need a manager to tell people to eat chocolate chip cookies, because they want to do that. But you do need a manager to tell them to work extra hours for the same amount of pay, and I’m not good at that. If managing were truly a case of win-win scenarios – you give me more and you get more out – I could definitely do that. But the “best” managers are not like that, [according to real-world corporate behaviour]. The “best” ones are the ones getting you to do stuff and giving you nothing in return. I can see that he might not be promoted due to skill and ability.

leereeves 4y ago
If that were the reason, then why would his boss tell him it was about race?
- random314 4y ago
  Discriminating on the basis of color and gender is illegal and managers are explicitly trained to not make such statements. I have a hard time believing such a conversation happened.
- clutchdude 4y ago
  Correction: Why would Scott Adams say that his boss told him it was about race? That is the assumption of this discussion. To me, we're beyond whether his race was a factor in promotion - he by direct provided self description is probably not a good candidate. But I'll guess beyond that. Maybe his boss wanted to keep him in his current position but needed a scapegoat to blame as a factor beyond both their control. Keep in mind this would have been more acceptable to suggest in 1970s/1980s than 2022. Maybe Scott Adams is making this all up or taking a partial comment and constructing his own flawed narrative around it, or, in the very least, neglecting key context to fully understand it. Again, I don't know what you want me to say here. I never brought up the origination of Dilbert nor understand where you are driving this discussion to.

leereeves 4y ago

If that were the reason, then why would his boss tell him it was about race?

random314 4y ago
Discriminating on the basis of color and gender is illegal and managers are explicitly trained to not make such statements. I have a hard time believing such a conversation happened.
clutchdude 4y ago
Correction: Why would Scott Adams say that his boss told him it was about race? That is the assumption of this discussion. To me, we're beyond whether his race was a factor in promotion - he by direct provided self description is probably not a good candidate. But I'll guess beyond that. Maybe his boss wanted to keep him in his current position but needed a scapegoat to blame as a factor beyond both their control. Keep in mind this would have been more acceptable to suggest in 1970s/1980s than 2022. Maybe Scott Adams is making this all up or taking a partial comment and constructing his own flawed narrative around it, or, in the very least, neglecting key context to fully understand it. Again, I don't know what you want me to say here. I never brought up the origination of Dilbert nor understand where you are driving this discussion to.