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Is it really what "normies" want? Or is it just what drug companies/lobbyists want?

labrador 4y ago
In America we live in a democracy (last I checked) so it's the mainstream public who decides in the end. The people in various western states were the first to decide that marijuana should be legal. So by normies I mean mainstream voters who worry about their children having uncontrolled access to psychedelics. Normies believe rules are made to be followed and laws are there for a reason.
- TylerE 4y ago
  Legalization would decrease underage availability, if anything. To quote an older friend who grew up in a dry county in Alabama: “The bootleggers didn’t care how old you were which was a good thing because I liked to drink and when I was 16 I looked 13”
NickC25 4y ago
Probably a mix of both. People who have some experience with drugs might want the benefit of the trip, but people who are a little more hesitant of the idea of mind-altering substances that last 8+ hours, such as LSD, might be more comfortable with some sort of watered-down experience backed by a major pharma brand and delivered by a licensed therapist. Of course, drug companies and lobbyists also dream of such outcomes.
- criddell 4y ago
  Is an inexpensive drug that can "cure" PTSD after a very small number of doses a dream or nightmare for drug companies and lobbyists?
  - vorpalhex 4y ago
    Someone does lsd and shoots up a gas station. Was it the lsd or were they just already nutters? Nobody knows. Telling people to take strong drugs that are purity tested and in a supervised clinical setting is sensible, not some conspiracy.
  - NickC25 4y ago
    A nightmare - as said companies will have a fixed amount of revenue per patient, and it won't be recurring. Wall Street doesn't like companies that go against the ingrained model of "extremely expensive long term care as a service".
    - colinsane 4y ago
      what of the insurance companies though? if they no longer have to pay for recurring treatments, then more of the customer’s monthly premium can go to the shareholder. Wall Street gets their recurring revenue one way or another.
      - criddell 4y ago
        Insurance is regulated. Typically they can only hold on to about 20% of the premium. If they collect too much money, you will get a rebate check mailed to you.
criddell 4y ago
I think at least some normies want that. I'm pretty much as normie as it gets and I've been watching Michael Pollan's series on Netflix How to Change Your Mind. One day I might want to try LSD, psilocybin, or MDMA (those are the episodes I've watched) but probably wouldn't until I could buy from an FDA regulated company. I don't trust dark web sources or the neighborhood guy who knows a guy.
- km3r 4y ago
  You can and should test any substance you acquire from an unregulated source.
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- engineer_22 4y ago
  Reach out to a friend and explain your situation, I'm sure you can find what you're looking for. These substances are ubiquitous. You might benefit from having a friend around while you're tripping, anyway.
- gjs278 4y ago
- tayo42 4y ago
  You can test what you buy with multiple reagent tests to make sure what you have is what you think it is. You can even send to labs if your extra paranoid. Also the dw runs on reviews. Some one selling something fake won't last long. Some have reputations from years of selling.

In America we live in a democracy (last I checked) so it's the mainstream public who decides in the end. The people in various western states were the first to decide that marijuana should be legal. So by normies I mean mainstream voters who worry about their children having uncontrolled access to psychedelics. Normies believe rules are made to be followed and laws are there for a reason.

TylerE 4y ago
Legalization would decrease underage availability, if anything. To quote an older friend who grew up in a dry county in Alabama: “The bootleggers didn’t care how old you were which was a good thing because I liked to drink and when I was 16 I looked 13”

NickC25 4y ago

Probably a mix of both. People who have some experience with drugs might want the benefit of the trip, but people who are a little more hesitant of the idea of mind-altering substances that last 8+ hours, such as LSD, might be more comfortable with some sort of watered-down experience backed by a major pharma brand and delivered by a licensed therapist. Of course, drug companies and lobbyists also dream of such outcomes.

criddell 4y ago
Is an inexpensive drug that can "cure" PTSD after a very small number of doses a dream or nightmare for drug companies and lobbyists?
- vorpalhex 4y ago
  Someone does lsd and shoots up a gas station. Was it the lsd or were they just already nutters? Nobody knows. Telling people to take strong drugs that are purity tested and in a supervised clinical setting is sensible, not some conspiracy.
- NickC25 4y ago
  A nightmare - as said companies will have a fixed amount of revenue per patient, and it won't be recurring. Wall Street doesn't like companies that go against the ingrained model of "extremely expensive long term care as a service".
  - colinsane 4y ago
    what of the insurance companies though? if they no longer have to pay for recurring treatments, then more of the customer’s monthly premium can go to the shareholder. Wall Street gets their recurring revenue one way or another.
    - criddell 4y ago
      Insurance is regulated. Typically they can only hold on to about 20% of the premium. If they collect too much money, you will get a rebate check mailed to you.

criddell 4y ago

I think at least some normies want that. I'm pretty much as normie as it gets and I've been watching Michael Pollan's series on Netflix How to Change Your Mind. One day I might want to try LSD, psilocybin, or MDMA (those are the episodes I've watched) but probably wouldn't until I could buy from an FDA regulated company. I don't trust dark web sources or the neighborhood guy who knows a guy.

km3r 4y ago
You can and should test any substance you acquire from an unregulated source.
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engineer_22 4y ago
Reach out to a friend and explain your situation, I'm sure you can find what you're looking for. These substances are ubiquitous. You might benefit from having a friend around while you're tripping, anyway.
gjs278 4y ago
tayo42 4y ago
You can test what you buy with multiple reagent tests to make sure what you have is what you think it is. You can even send to labs if your extra paranoid. Also the dw runs on reviews. Some one selling something fake won't last long. Some have reputations from years of selling.