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It would appear that although Capitalism has a solution, Capital and Capitalists don't like that solution (effluent taxes).

rbanffy 4y ago
The solutions to a number of problems, from climate change, inequality, inflation, housing crises, are all obvious. It's always capitalism that will actively prevent them from being implemented, because it would hurt their profits.
- engineer_22 4y ago
  As a person inside such a complex and incomprehensible system as the world socioeconomic machine it's far from apparent that anything is obvious, except that humans are incapable of perceiving all of the complexity at once.
  - asdff 4y ago
    How is it not obvious that we shouldn't be burning fossil fuels? Or that we should have mental institutions instead of letting people wander in the street? Easy solutions like this have been obvious for scientists in these fields for decades. You don't have to understand the complexity, just listen to the experts who do in this domain, and they have been hollering the obvious to deaf ears who would prefer a profitable status quo versus a collectively beneficial overhaul of how we do things.
  - anigbrowl 4y ago
    You seem to be arguing that until you understand everything you don't understand anything and mustn't act. This just leads to paralysis. We don't fully understand human biology but that doesn't render our existing medical and pharmaceutical knowledge useless.
anonuser123456 4y ago
Capitalists love the solution. Corporatists under the guise of capitalism hate it. But those systems and beliefs are orthogonal. Corporatists just picks the parts of capitalism they like and ignores the rest.
- engineer_22 4y ago
  Capitalists = altruists Corporatists = greedy But why though? Can you really ascribe character traits to these groups with a single brush?
- LargeWu 4y ago
  The problem is that the venn diagram of those two groups is nearly a perfect circle, especially the ones influential and powerful enough to effect any change that would reign in the excesses.

rbanffy 4y ago

The solutions to a number of problems, from climate change, inequality, inflation, housing crises, are all obvious. It's always capitalism that will actively prevent them from being implemented, because it would hurt their profits.

engineer_22 4y ago
As a person inside such a complex and incomprehensible system as the world socioeconomic machine it's far from apparent that anything is obvious, except that humans are incapable of perceiving all of the complexity at once.
- asdff 4y ago
  How is it not obvious that we shouldn't be burning fossil fuels? Or that we should have mental institutions instead of letting people wander in the street? Easy solutions like this have been obvious for scientists in these fields for decades. You don't have to understand the complexity, just listen to the experts who do in this domain, and they have been hollering the obvious to deaf ears who would prefer a profitable status quo versus a collectively beneficial overhaul of how we do things.
- anigbrowl 4y ago
  You seem to be arguing that until you understand everything you don't understand anything and mustn't act. This just leads to paralysis. We don't fully understand human biology but that doesn't render our existing medical and pharmaceutical knowledge useless.

anonuser123456 4y ago

Capitalists love the solution. Corporatists under the guise of capitalism hate it. But those systems and beliefs are orthogonal. Corporatists just picks the parts of capitalism they like and ignores the rest.

engineer_22 4y ago
Capitalists = altruists Corporatists = greedy But why though? Can you really ascribe character traits to these groups with a single brush?
LargeWu 4y ago
The problem is that the venn diagram of those two groups is nearly a perfect circle, especially the ones influential and powerful enough to effect any change that would reign in the excesses.