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America Isn’t Ready for War with China

10 points by Ambolia 4y ago

egcodes 4y ago
In fact, Taiwan (proxy) will fight, not USA. The United States is trying to do for its other rival what it did in the Russia-Ukraine war.
- Kukumber 4y ago
  Exactly, not just Taiwan, they'll also use South Korea and Japan Just recently they moved their US base to Okinawa, Japan, despite locals against it, for some reason their government pushed it after Abe got assassinated https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/6/19/japans-okinawa-rallies-against-us-military-base https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/6/19/japans-okinawa-rall... https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/8/11/70000-rally-in-okinawa-over-us-military-base-relocation https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/8/11/70000-rally-in-okin... They even ignored the result of a referendum https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-47353504 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-47353504 Hopefully locals keep push against the War that the US desperately want to ignite but not fight..
  - egcodes 4y ago
    Yes, we can see the same situation between Greece and Turkey. As you know, there are also problems between the United States and Turkey. With the recent agreements, F-35 and the bases opened in Greece, the same policy can be applied against Turkey.
  - s1artibartfast 4y ago
    Their bases have always been in Okinawa. They are moving a base from one part of the island to another. US bases already take up a decent chunk of the Island: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:US_military_bases_in_Okinawa.svg https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:US_military_bases_in...
    - Kukumber 4y ago
      Lovely, it's all accepted, a sovereign country full of military bases from a foreign country, nobody should question that, ever
      - s1artibartfast 4y ago
        You can question it all you. The parent poster was claiming they were moving a base to Okinawa.
trasz 4y ago
Hopefully it means US won’t start it?
Flatcircle 4y ago
If china and the United States ceased trading, more people would die than in any war since world War 2. Kinetic wars are most likely a thing of the past. The next world war won’t look like the last one.
- AnimalMuppet 4y ago
  > If china and the United States ceased trading, more people would die than in any war since world War 2. If it's not kinetic, what will they die from? How will that work?
  - jfengel 4y ago
    I think the idea is "The war would be so bad that surely they won't have a regular war. So they'll do something different."
  - Flatcircle 4y ago
    Lack of medicine for the US and food for China. Or China’s trading partners.
Nomentatus 4y ago
China isn't ready to meet up with tens of thousands of the newer US 12-inch torpedos (CRAW - compact rapid attack weapon) either. The Franz Ferdinand line was funny, though. We've just seen a demonstration, in the Ukraine, that defense is now extremely strong compared to attack - maybe more so than even in WWI. Small is beautiful and ever-cheaper AI has everything to do with that.

10 points by Ambolia 4y ago

In fact, Taiwan (proxy) will fight, not USA. The United States is trying to do for its other rival what it did in the Russia-Ukraine war.

Kukumber 4y ago
Exactly, not just Taiwan, they'll also use South Korea and Japan Just recently they moved their US base to Okinawa, Japan, despite locals against it, for some reason their government pushed it after Abe got assassinated https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/6/19/japans-okinawa-rallies-against-us-military-base https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/6/19/japans-okinawa-rall... https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/8/11/70000-rally-in-okinawa-over-us-military-base-relocation https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/8/11/70000-rally-in-okin... They even ignored the result of a referendum https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-47353504 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-47353504 Hopefully locals keep push against the War that the US desperately want to ignite but not fight..
- egcodes 4y ago
  Yes, we can see the same situation between Greece and Turkey. As you know, there are also problems between the United States and Turkey. With the recent agreements, F-35 and the bases opened in Greece, the same policy can be applied against Turkey.
- s1artibartfast 4y ago
  Their bases have always been in Okinawa. They are moving a base from one part of the island to another. US bases already take up a decent chunk of the Island: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:US_military_bases_in_Okinawa.svg https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:US_military_bases_in...
  - Kukumber 4y ago
    Lovely, it's all accepted, a sovereign country full of military bases from a foreign country, nobody should question that, ever
    - s1artibartfast 4y ago
      You can question it all you. The parent poster was claiming they were moving a base to Okinawa.

trasz 4y ago

Hopefully it means US won’t start it?

Flatcircle 4y ago

If china and the United States ceased trading, more people would die than in any war since world War 2. Kinetic wars are most likely a thing of the past. The next world war won’t look like the last one.

AnimalMuppet 4y ago
> If china and the United States ceased trading, more people would die than in any war since world War 2. If it's not kinetic, what will they die from? How will that work?
- jfengel 4y ago
  I think the idea is "The war would be so bad that surely they won't have a regular war. So they'll do something different."
- Flatcircle 4y ago
  Lack of medicine for the US and food for China. Or China’s trading partners.

Nomentatus 4y ago

China isn't ready to meet up with tens of thousands of the newer US 12-inch torpedos (CRAW - compact rapid attack weapon) either. The Franz Ferdinand line was funny, though. We've just seen a demonstration, in the Ukraine, that defense is now extremely strong compared to attack - maybe more so than even in WWI. Small is beautiful and ever-cheaper AI has everything to do with that.