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You can cherry-pick examples of bad communication and bad policies all you want. But the fact remains that women and minorities are at a significant disadvanta

You can cherry-pick examples of bad communication and bad policies all you want. But the fact remains that women and minorities are at a significant disadvantage when it comes to just about all aspects of life. The 'woke' problem pales in comparison to the actual problem. Complaining about things going too far isn't a good look when there are real, systemic issues remaining.

selfmodruntime 4y ago
> But the fact remains that women and minorities are at a significant disadvantage when it comes to just about all aspects of life Yes, but overcorrecting but trying to implement equality of outcome instead of equality of opportunity is bad as well. Both can be true.
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languageserver 4y ago
> But the fact remains that women and minorities are at a significant disadvantage when it comes to just about all aspects of life Erasing women increases this
scifibestfi 4y ago
> But the fact remains that women and minorities are at a significant disadvantage when it comes to just about all aspects of life How does that square with the fact that the homeless and prison populations are mostly men? And men do the most dangerous jobs? And most social programs are aimed at women? And divorce favors women? And men die younger? And women outnumber men in college?
- ZeroGravitas 4y ago
  Nice dodge of 'minorities', some of whom are men, and are incarcerated at a higher rate (as much as 5x higher).
  - scifibestfi 4y ago
    Minorities aren't a monolith either. For example, Asians are incarcerated at a lower rate than whites and you can figure out why this is by examining crime statistics.
- objectivetruth 4y ago
- 78124781 4y ago
  Plus the highest suicide rate in the US by far comes from white men: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7108a7.htm https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7108a7.htm And women not only outnumber men in college, but that divide is increasing rapidly and now includes most higher degrees as well: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/23/business/dealbook/women-college-economy.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/23/business/dealbook/women-c...
yes_really 4y ago
> But the fact remains that women and minorities are at a significant disadvantage when it comes to just about all aspects of life. - 90% of homicide victims are male. - 80% of homeless people are male. - 90% of people in prison are male. - 80% of suicide victims are male. And there are many, many more issues that men face. But I won't even touch on them because you are clearly against discussing them.

selfmodruntime 4y ago

> But the fact remains that women and minorities are at a significant disadvantage when it comes to just about all aspects of life Yes, but overcorrecting but trying to implement equality of outcome instead of equality of opportunity is bad as well. Both can be true.

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languageserver 4y ago

> But the fact remains that women and minorities are at a significant disadvantage when it comes to just about all aspects of life Erasing women increases this

scifibestfi 4y ago

> But the fact remains that women and minorities are at a significant disadvantage when it comes to just about all aspects of life How does that square with the fact that the homeless and prison populations are mostly men? And men do the most dangerous jobs? And most social programs are aimed at women? And divorce favors women? And men die younger? And women outnumber men in college?

ZeroGravitas 4y ago
Nice dodge of 'minorities', some of whom are men, and are incarcerated at a higher rate (as much as 5x higher).
- scifibestfi 4y ago
  Minorities aren't a monolith either. For example, Asians are incarcerated at a lower rate than whites and you can figure out why this is by examining crime statistics.
objectivetruth 4y ago
78124781 4y ago
Plus the highest suicide rate in the US by far comes from white men: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7108a7.htm https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7108a7.htm And women not only outnumber men in college, but that divide is increasing rapidly and now includes most higher degrees as well: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/23/business/dealbook/women-college-economy.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/23/business/dealbook/women-c...

yes_really 4y ago

> But the fact remains that women and minorities are at a significant disadvantage when it comes to just about all aspects of life. - 90% of homicide victims are male. - 80% of homeless people are male. - 90% of people in prison are male. - 80% of suicide victims are male. And there are many, many more issues that men face. But I won't even touch on them because you are clearly against discussing them.