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> You stab someone with a screwdriver, paid with a credit card and credit card service company is held responsible. So, while I think your stance is wrong for

> You stab someone with a screwdriver, paid with a credit card and credit card service company is held responsible. So, while I think your stance is wrong for many reasons, this is misrepresenting what is happening and it a flat out lie. As it currently stands, the credit card service company is not being held responsible. It is allowed to be sued, but proof still needs to be produced. But here, let's take your analogy and add in some additional information. "You stab someone with a screwdriver, paid with a credit card and credit card service company is held responsible. The credit card company worked with the company to ensure that the company could sell illegal screwdrivers to people who would go around stabbing people with it, and promising that they would continue processing transactions as long as they made some promise to do better." Maybe you can explain why this is okay. > This is the end of the world as we know it. It's not.

kmlx 4y ago
> The credit card company worked with the company to ensure that the company could sell illegal screwdrivers to people who would go around stabbing people with it this is not what was happening at all.
ApolloFortyNine 4y ago
>Maybe you can explain why this is okay. If you can't explain how this is different from the domain name registrar, the datacenter, and even the power and water companies serving the datacenter, then this would allow future lawsuits against these parts that most of us take for granted as a dumb pipe. Instead of being an automated process essentially to sign up for these services, you will have to interview and provide key parts of your business to each of these, so they can decide if you're worth the risk. And if you allow user uploaded content at all, good luck in this future. >This is the end of the world as we know it. These sites are already only allowed to exists with processor fees over 20%. If an alternative, easy, payment platform isn't established (and one hasn't been for decades) these sites and any others deemed 'risky' will cease to exists, and the bar will steadily be raised from there.

kmlx 4y ago

> The credit card company worked with the company to ensure that the company could sell illegal screwdrivers to people who would go around stabbing people with it this is not what was happening at all.

ApolloFortyNine 4y ago

>Maybe you can explain why this is okay. If you can't explain how this is different from the domain name registrar, the datacenter, and even the power and water companies serving the datacenter, then this would allow future lawsuits against these parts that most of us take for granted as a dumb pipe. Instead of being an automated process essentially to sign up for these services, you will have to interview and provide key parts of your business to each of these, so they can decide if you're worth the risk. And if you allow user uploaded content at all, good luck in this future. >This is the end of the world as we know it. These sites are already only allowed to exists with processor fees over 20%. If an alternative, easy, payment platform isn't established (and one hasn't been for decades) these sites and any others deemed 'risky' will cease to exists, and the bar will steadily be raised from there.