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I can see there being a bar where it is reasonable that Visa should have known it was happening. For the screwdriver example, I think everyone would agree it wo

I can see there being a bar where it is reasonable that Visa should have known it was happening. For the screwdriver example, I think everyone would agree it would be unreasonable for Visa to know what was going to happen. For this case, it is kind of common sense that at some point child porn or at least revenge porn would be uploaded to PH, and they are a very large company that works with Visa, so maybe Visa should have known it was possible? I guess that goes with every company that does business with PH. There has to be a line somewhere where a company starts being responsible for knowingly doing business with an entity doing illegal things, this lawsuit it maybe just testing that line.

zmgsabst 4y ago
We know at least some screwdrivers (and other hand tools) are used for murder, based on records of murder by the government. Visa should have known the risk of screwdrivers without background checks! Why didn’t they cut off Home Depot?
bennyp101 4y ago
That kinda stuff I guess gets uploaded to any sort of “social media” site, so Facebook, twitter, etc, where do they draw the line of just not accepting payments?
- martin_a 4y ago
  There have been very unfortunate pictures of me on Facebook, I think Visa should stop taking payments for them. /s Nah, I think you got the point. With social media and user-generated content at whole, it's simply not possible to not have some foul eggs in the basket.
s1artibartfast 4y ago
It seems reasonable to assume that somewhere out there screwdrivers are being miss used. >There has to be a line somewhere where a company starts being responsible for knowingly doing business with an entity doing illegal things Isn't that the point of business licensing? It is weird for the state, courts, and law enforcement to permit a company to operate legally, but hold their business partners to a higher standard. Visa didn't have any inside info on pornhub that the state and law enforcement didn't have inside
martin_a 4y ago
> revenge porn would be uploaded to PH Does this look different than other porn? I mean, how is PH supposed to know it's revenge porn, when it's being uploaded? I don't think you can effectively find and filter that. You can only react to complaints afterwards.
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zmgsabst 4y ago

We know at least some screwdrivers (and other hand tools) are used for murder, based on records of murder by the government. Visa should have known the risk of screwdrivers without background checks! Why didn’t they cut off Home Depot?

bennyp101 4y ago

That kinda stuff I guess gets uploaded to any sort of “social media” site, so Facebook, twitter, etc, where do they draw the line of just not accepting payments?

martin_a 4y ago
There have been very unfortunate pictures of me on Facebook, I think Visa should stop taking payments for them. /s Nah, I think you got the point. With social media and user-generated content at whole, it's simply not possible to not have some foul eggs in the basket.

s1artibartfast 4y ago

It seems reasonable to assume that somewhere out there screwdrivers are being miss used. >There has to be a line somewhere where a company starts being responsible for knowingly doing business with an entity doing illegal things Isn't that the point of business licensing? It is weird for the state, courts, and law enforcement to permit a company to operate legally, but hold their business partners to a higher standard. Visa didn't have any inside info on pornhub that the state and law enforcement didn't have inside

martin_a 4y ago

> revenge porn would be uploaded to PH Does this look different than other porn? I mean, how is PH supposed to know it's revenge porn, when it's being uploaded? I don't think you can effectively find and filter that. You can only react to complaints afterwards.

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