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For those who want to host their own servers and aren’t afraid to manage their own networking, we provide a tunnel service called Hoppy Network. It allows you t

For those who want to host their own servers and aren’t afraid to manage their own networking, we provide a tunnel service called Hoppy Network. It allows you to self host anything from mail servers to web servers, by assigning you a static IP address over a WireGuard tunnel. We forward all packets, including IPv6 and ICMP. We have great uptime (>99.9%) and great IP address reputation. https://hoppy.network https://hoppy.network

pbronez 4y ago
How does this solution compare to Dynamic DNS services like DuckDNS? How about overlay networks like Tailscale? My initial impression is that it solves a similar problem to DuckDNS (“how can I get a static, public IP for a machine on my residential LAN?”) using technology similar to Tailscale (WireGuard tunnels as a service). Perhaps egress/public routing is the big advantage over Tailscale? Tailscale focuses on creating a trusted perimeter so all your devices can talk to each other securely. It doesn’t have an external gateway for other people to access specific devices within that perimeter. I think their business model / architecture may actually preclude this feature… they use their hosted service primarily for peer discovery, most traffic is routed P2P.
- vineyardmike 4y ago
  Dynamic DNS solves a similar but different problem. As the name says, it focuses on DNS. It doesn’t solve the “I get a static IP” and instead accepts the IP won’t be static and focused on identifying and updating the IP as needed. Basically it sets a DNS record for your routers WAN IP. You would need to punch holes and do port mapping and all that jazz. Hoppy appears to solve this problem by providing a static endpoint to route traffic over. Tailscale eschews the public internet altogether, while providing Tailscale-network static IPs. Tailscale is the most strict/limited as you mentioned (not all devices can address into it) but the most secure (since each device has to be included and there’s no public internet). Hoppy seems next on secure/convenient list where anything should work but you have to use public internet.
loxias 4y ago
Cool service! I've been wondering about something like this. The pricing seems a bit high though, considering $8/month could also buy a cheap VPS with more than 1TB bandwidth (Contabo VPS, for example, offers a whopping 32TB outgoing traffic at $7/month.) Perhaps I'm not the use case or target market, but something like this does appeal to me -- I just don't see why I'd pay for a wireguard endpoint, when I could get a VPS with a public IP and run the tunnel myself. Sorry if too critical, I was metaphorically "reaching for my credit card" when I read "static IP over wireguard tunnel", before attempting to sanity check the prices.

pbronez 4y ago

How does this solution compare to Dynamic DNS services like DuckDNS? How about overlay networks like Tailscale? My initial impression is that it solves a similar problem to DuckDNS (“how can I get a static, public IP for a machine on my residential LAN?”) using technology similar to Tailscale (WireGuard tunnels as a service). Perhaps egress/public routing is the big advantage over Tailscale? Tailscale focuses on creating a trusted perimeter so all your devices can talk to each other securely. It doesn’t have an external gateway for other people to access specific devices within that perimeter. I think their business model / architecture may actually preclude this feature… they use their hosted service primarily for peer discovery, most traffic is routed P2P.

vineyardmike 4y ago
Dynamic DNS solves a similar but different problem. As the name says, it focuses on DNS. It doesn’t solve the “I get a static IP” and instead accepts the IP won’t be static and focused on identifying and updating the IP as needed. Basically it sets a DNS record for your routers WAN IP. You would need to punch holes and do port mapping and all that jazz. Hoppy appears to solve this problem by providing a static endpoint to route traffic over. Tailscale eschews the public internet altogether, while providing Tailscale-network static IPs. Tailscale is the most strict/limited as you mentioned (not all devices can address into it) but the most secure (since each device has to be included and there’s no public internet). Hoppy seems next on secure/convenient list where anything should work but you have to use public internet.

loxias 4y ago

Cool service! I've been wondering about something like this. The pricing seems a bit high though, considering $8/month could also buy a cheap VPS with more than 1TB bandwidth (Contabo VPS, for example, offers a whopping 32TB outgoing traffic at $7/month.) Perhaps I'm not the use case or target market, but something like this does appeal to me -- I just don't see why I'd pay for a wireguard endpoint, when I could get a VPS with a public IP and run the tunnel myself. Sorry if too critical, I was metaphorically "reaching for my credit card" when I read "static IP over wireguard tunnel", before attempting to sanity check the prices.