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Is Taiwan a military ally? Honestly asking, did they send troops to afghanistan like say Denmark? Outside of that, the military exists to defend americans not r

by _8j50 4y ago

Is Taiwan a military ally? Honestly asking, did they send troops to afghanistan like say Denmark? Outside of that, the military exists to defend americans not random countries right? I don't really think Xi or the CCP seriously believes after hong-kong and US's reliance on China that there will be a war with the US directly. Just like with Russia there will be an economic war and proxy support by means of money and weapon sales to help taiwan defend itself. But if it faild and it gets invaded, america will not be liberating them from China. Less reliance on China and Taiwan means more capability to wage a proxy war when the time comes so in a way this is good for Taiwan's defense as well. Regional allies are also better suited to in proxy or direct hostility against China if that will piss off uncle sam a little less. Right now, the only thing preventing the US from economically onliterating China is its own addiction to Chinese goods. I disagree with most things Trumpian but his tariffs were the right direction. Certain industries in addition to tariffs should have a lot more in tax burden specifically for not diversifying their supply chain outside of China (possibly with subsidies like the CHIPS act)

atoav 4y ago
> Outside of that, the military exists to defend americans not random countries right? Wrong. As history shows the military exists to defend american interest not it's people. Sometimes that interest might also be to defend it's people, sometimes it might be a political calculation, sometimes a geopolitical one etc. In any case they need people who are willing to die for it. In the case of Taiwan I have to say the financial interest might be immense. If you think you have seen a chip shortage or supply chain disruptions, a war in Taiwan would show us an entirely new dimension of suffering. It could already be catastrophic if one strategic fab in Taiwan would be destroyed. But a war?
- _8j50 4y ago
  There is what happens and what is done. Why would you send teenagers to die in a foreign land for "american interest", isn't that morally abhorrent?? Moreover, is it the will of the peope that soldiers die for american interests instead of defending americans and and the homeland? I have not heard anyone outside of military-complex and politicians advocate for war for the sake of money. Isn't that why they lied about wmds in Iraq and lied about Vietnam as well(pentagon papers)? Are you saying your government has consent to kill your people in an attempt to kill other people (including civilian collateral damage) for the sake of your economy? I understand what has been happening in reality but I assumed given we just pulled out of Afghanistan the apptetite for war, especially with a nuclear armed nation containing over half of humanity would not be acceptable even if they implemented naval blocades in the south china sea or invaded Japan let along Taiwan.

by _8j50 4y ago

atoav 4y ago

> Outside of that, the military exists to defend americans not random countries right? Wrong. As history shows the military exists to defend american interest not it's people. Sometimes that interest might also be to defend it's people, sometimes it might be a political calculation, sometimes a geopolitical one etc. In any case they need people who are willing to die for it. In the case of Taiwan I have to say the financial interest might be immense. If you think you have seen a chip shortage or supply chain disruptions, a war in Taiwan would show us an entirely new dimension of suffering. It could already be catastrophic if one strategic fab in Taiwan would be destroyed. But a war?

_8j50 4y ago
There is what happens and what is done. Why would you send teenagers to die in a foreign land for "american interest", isn't that morally abhorrent?? Moreover, is it the will of the peope that soldiers die for american interests instead of defending americans and and the homeland? I have not heard anyone outside of military-complex and politicians advocate for war for the sake of money. Isn't that why they lied about wmds in Iraq and lied about Vietnam as well(pentagon papers)? Are you saying your government has consent to kill your people in an attempt to kill other people (including civilian collateral damage) for the sake of your economy? I understand what has been happening in reality but I assumed given we just pulled out of Afghanistan the apptetite for war, especially with a nuclear armed nation containing over half of humanity would not be acceptable even if they implemented naval blocades in the south china sea or invaded Japan let along Taiwan.