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Great timing! As far as I can see, you cannot buy Raspberry Pi CM4s anywhere right now. But your Product does look good. I am not convinced of your value propos

by dtx1 4y ago

Great timing! As far as I can see, you cannot buy Raspberry Pi CM4s anywhere right now. But your Product does look good. I am not convinced of your value proposition but wish you best of luck. Getting more data away from the gigacorps is always a good thing

LeoPanthera 4y ago
They come back in stock almost every week, keep an eye on https://rpilocator.com https://rpilocator.com - and maybe subscribe to their twitter if you want instant stock alerts.
- inferiorhuman 4y ago
  I just checked and as if by magic, yep, there are some CM4s (in Germany). I've been looking to pick up a couple more Zeros though and haven't seen those in stock in months.
  - LeoPanthera 4y ago
    It's my understanding that the Zeros are very low priority for production, so you might be waiting a while for those. Since you're only allowed to buy one per order anyway they're not actually that useful for much.
- OmahaBoy69 4y ago
  Chiming in to say that if you're using this to buy a Pi from AdaFruit make sure to register an account with two-factor auth before you get the chance to buy. They require this to deter scalpers, and they'll run out of stock before you're able to finish the process if you haven't already done so.
TedDoesntTalk 4y ago
What does value proposition mean? I’ve heard the term a lot but never understood it.
- junwonapp 4y ago
  You can think of it as answering the question, "Why does the humankind need this product to exist?"
  - im_down_w_otp 4y ago
    Very few things can clear this hurdle, and even less so the sorts of things that tend to come up on HN. Very, very few industrial farming topics come up on here for example. Perhaps a more apt framework would be, "What's the reason someone is giving you money for this product?"
    - TedDoesntTalk 4y ago
      Why don’t people use the word “value” then? Why “value proposition” and not just “value”?
      - robjan 4y ago
        "value proposition" is about how you demonstrate the value.
      - im_down_w_otp 4y ago
        I assume it's because "value prop" is VC lingo which is a prompt to founders to give their customer "elevator pitch", and we're on community forum that's motivated by VC perspectives & lexicon, so those get broadly appropriated by many participants.
- fmajid 4y ago
  Why someone would want to buy the product. Value is in the eye of the beholder, of course, and it’s not always what the maker expected.
- dsr_ 4y ago
  A value proposition is the story of why this product or service is worth more to you than the price being asked.
erulabs 4y ago
It can be hard to express the value proposition. For a lot of people, it's a media server with some really neat torrent related apps. For others it's a photosharing box that doesn't share photos with anyone you don't want it to. Others buy it because it's a tiny Kubernetes cluster, and they want to learn real tech skills with their hobby. But honestly, it's also a computer. It's the dream machine (1). What was the value proposition of the personal computer? What we're proposing is the personal server. Billions of folks run the client-side of the internet - but only a tiny elite class of us know how to run the server-side? If I get hyperbolic and kool-aid drunk, just know it's because I'm quite passionate about this. The blockchain folks talk a lot about "distributing the web". We're simply distributing web servers. For now though - it's a neat box to run Photostructure or a Ghost blog on :) 1. https://press.stripe.com/the-dream-machine https://press.stripe.com/the-dream-machine
- rschachte 4y ago
  Neat gadget/site! I think people have concerns around value proposition when you sell the box for hundreds of dollars and say it's good to host a Ghost blog on. I would probably advertise something bigger because FWIW I host a blog on a $5 pi fronted by Cloudflare (free). These look really nice and clean though, wish you the best!
- watercooler_guy 4y ago
  Off topic, but I think that stripe.com page you've linked to is the most beautifully designed modern webpage I've ever had the pleasure of scrolling. It's the 3d objects that move ever-so-slightly along with my cursor passing over them that does it for me.
- jollyllama 4y ago
  Very cool. How are people clustering with these? Do you know how they are setting up their laptops etc. as control nodes, buying pis as control nodes, or something else? Is there out of the box capability to cluster with nodes from cloud providers?
  - erulabs 4y ago

by dtx1 4y ago

LeoPanthera 4y ago

They come back in stock almost every week, keep an eye on https://rpilocator.com https://rpilocator.com - and maybe subscribe to their twitter if you want instant stock alerts.

inferiorhuman 4y ago
I just checked and as if by magic, yep, there are some CM4s (in Germany). I've been looking to pick up a couple more Zeros though and haven't seen those in stock in months.
- LeoPanthera 4y ago
  It's my understanding that the Zeros are very low priority for production, so you might be waiting a while for those. Since you're only allowed to buy one per order anyway they're not actually that useful for much.
OmahaBoy69 4y ago
Chiming in to say that if you're using this to buy a Pi from AdaFruit make sure to register an account with two-factor auth before you get the chance to buy. They require this to deter scalpers, and they'll run out of stock before you're able to finish the process if you haven't already done so.

TedDoesntTalk 4y ago

What does value proposition mean? I’ve heard the term a lot but never understood it.

junwonapp 4y ago
You can think of it as answering the question, "Why does the humankind need this product to exist?"
- im_down_w_otp 4y ago
  Very few things can clear this hurdle, and even less so the sorts of things that tend to come up on HN. Very, very few industrial farming topics come up on here for example. Perhaps a more apt framework would be, "What's the reason someone is giving you money for this product?"
  - TedDoesntTalk 4y ago
    Why don’t people use the word “value” then? Why “value proposition” and not just “value”?
    - robjan 4y ago
      "value proposition" is about how you demonstrate the value.
    - im_down_w_otp 4y ago
      I assume it's because "value prop" is VC lingo which is a prompt to founders to give their customer "elevator pitch", and we're on community forum that's motivated by VC perspectives & lexicon, so those get broadly appropriated by many participants.
fmajid 4y ago
Why someone would want to buy the product. Value is in the eye of the beholder, of course, and it’s not always what the maker expected.
dsr_ 4y ago
A value proposition is the story of why this product or service is worth more to you than the price being asked.

erulabs 4y ago

It can be hard to express the value proposition. For a lot of people, it's a media server with some really neat torrent related apps. For others it's a photosharing box that doesn't share photos with anyone you don't want it to. Others buy it because it's a tiny Kubernetes cluster, and they want to learn real tech skills with their hobby. But honestly, it's also a computer. It's the dream machine (1). What was the value proposition of the personal computer? What we're proposing is the personal server. Billions of folks run the client-side of the internet - but only a tiny elite class of us know how to run the server-side? If I get hyperbolic and kool-aid drunk, just know it's because I'm quite passionate about this. The blockchain folks talk a lot about "distributing the web". We're simply distributing web servers. For now though - it's a neat box to run Photostructure or a Ghost blog on :) 1. https://press.stripe.com/the-dream-machine https://press.stripe.com/the-dream-machine

rschachte 4y ago
Neat gadget/site! I think people have concerns around value proposition when you sell the box for hundreds of dollars and say it's good to host a Ghost blog on. I would probably advertise something bigger because FWIW I host a blog on a $5 pi fronted by Cloudflare (free). These look really nice and clean though, wish you the best!
watercooler_guy 4y ago
Off topic, but I think that stripe.com page you've linked to is the most beautifully designed modern webpage I've ever had the pleasure of scrolling. It's the 3d objects that move ever-so-slightly along with my cursor passing over them that does it for me.
jollyllama 4y ago
Very cool. How are people clustering with these? Do you know how they are setting up their laptops etc. as control nodes, buying pis as control nodes, or something else? Is there out of the box capability to cluster with nodes from cloud providers?
- erulabs 4y ago