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I must disagree. What I have seen is what you are saying enables bad internal culture, decision making and technical habits to become more ingrained into the ve

by _8j50 4y ago

I must disagree. What I have seen is what you are saying enables bad internal culture, decision making and technical habits to become more ingrained into the very soul of the company. I see well meaning senior technical people disregard my advice on technical matters because that's just not how things are done there ever, some things are so far out of the box they can't even conceive of it as a possibility. Manager after manager telling you the same answer because that's what whoever they ask about tells them because everyone at that dept/company is 15+yr tenured. If you want to keep things as they are but maybe slightly better or to make different internal people happy you promote from within. If you want fresh thinking and new directions you gotta hire from the outside. I can't emphasize this enough. The only analogy that comes to mind is eskimos that have to traverse a desert but only want other eskimos in their team.

buscoquadnary 4y ago
If we are going to go to extremes to illustrate the disadvantages then let me point out what happens with the opposite. When you choose to hire outside for every single leadership position especially senior ones you send the message to the people that their effort and sacrifice is not appreciated and you don't trust and that they won't be growing with the company. The people who built the company then get disaffected and leave, eventually no one is committed and things go to hell because there is no loyalty or personal interest.
- _8j50 4y ago
  You are right, extremes are bad and balance is good. But if you have a startup and nobody in the 10 person company has managed people let along other managers for more than 5 years, yeah, hire from outside and create more management roles internally so your people can get promoted and gain experience. There is no substitution for experience, especially political experience for a political role.
quickthrower2 4y ago
It is like eskimos trying to climb mount Everest. A new (cold) challenge, but not completely different as a desert.
AussieWog93 4y ago
>The only analogy that comes to mind is eskimos that have to traverse a desert but only want other eskimos in their team. I suspect Eskimos would be extremely adept at traversing some desert environments! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polar_desert https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polar_desert (I kid, please don't hunt me down)
- _8j50 4y ago
  Fair enough :)
mellosouls 4y ago
The only analogy that comes to mind is eskimos that have to traverse a desert but only want other eskimos in their team. Another analogy is Eskimos crossing the tundra and the flashy new external-hire exec insisting on camels because that's missing off his resume...
- _8j50 4y ago
  That's why you don't hire on resume, you look at track record and reputation for a public figure like that.

by _8j50 4y ago

buscoquadnary 4y ago

If we are going to go to extremes to illustrate the disadvantages then let me point out what happens with the opposite. When you choose to hire outside for every single leadership position especially senior ones you send the message to the people that their effort and sacrifice is not appreciated and you don't trust and that they won't be growing with the company. The people who built the company then get disaffected and leave, eventually no one is committed and things go to hell because there is no loyalty or personal interest.

_8j50 4y ago
You are right, extremes are bad and balance is good. But if you have a startup and nobody in the 10 person company has managed people let along other managers for more than 5 years, yeah, hire from outside and create more management roles internally so your people can get promoted and gain experience. There is no substitution for experience, especially political experience for a political role.

quickthrower2 4y ago

It is like eskimos trying to climb mount Everest. A new (cold) challenge, but not completely different as a desert.

AussieWog93 4y ago

>The only analogy that comes to mind is eskimos that have to traverse a desert but only want other eskimos in their team. I suspect Eskimos would be extremely adept at traversing some desert environments! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polar_desert https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polar_desert (I kid, please don't hunt me down)

_8j50 4y ago
Fair enough :)

mellosouls 4y ago

The only analogy that comes to mind is eskimos that have to traverse a desert but only want other eskimos in their team. Another analogy is Eskimos crossing the tundra and the flashy new external-hire exec insisting on camels because that's missing off his resume...

_8j50 4y ago
That's why you don't hire on resume, you look at track record and reputation for a public figure like that.