> To me, a VM in the cloud already feels like a container This is the mental abstraction I've been operating with for over a decade now. All of our products a

> To me, a VM in the cloud already feels like a container This is the mental abstraction I've been operating with for over a decade now. All of our products are monolithic binaries that can be installed on bare-ass windows or linux machines. For all intents & purposes, basic AWS/Azure/et. al. VM hosting is our containerization strategy. We just pushed the tricky bits down into our software. 95% of our pain is resolved by using a modern .NET stack and leaning hard on their Self-Contained Deployment model. Our software has zero external dependencies at deploy time, so there isn't much to orchestrate. Anything that talks to a 3rd party system is managed purely via configuration in our software.