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There's a special breed of alt-right people who are actually well informed on the issue, don't deny climate change but because they are doom&gloom minded libert

by mrtksn 4y ago

There's a special breed of alt-right people who are actually well informed on the issue, don't deny climate change but because they are doom&gloom minded libertarians they passionately advocate for de-regulation because "we won't make it, so lets just have a good time when we can". I'm not accusing anyone, it's just that I know such a person with phd in a related field and he is very active online, pushing for alt-right agendas and culture wars in spite of "leftist who cant stop lying". Went offline for weeks when Trump lost and he doesn't like the guy. I really can't understand this mentality. So what if we probably won't reach the goals? What is the proposed action here? Increase the limits on carbon emissions? Evacuate the places that will go under water? For some reason, the arguments I see online revolve around the idea of "we can't make it, just don't bother" as if it is a investment opportunity that failed.

npc54321 4y ago
I rarely argue online lately but I'll bite. I think similar to your friend. I'm anti-everything that pollutes even on a more instinctive level because my nose just can't handle gas odors / car exhaust etc I just hate it. You will never fix climate change without first fixing wealth inequality. Ain't no chance in hell John Doe will start biking to his workplace where he'll arrive drenched in sweat while he sees the CEO arriving in a private helicopter. Another example: Bill Gates being a climate change activist, a noble cause of course but the guy owns the largest fleet of private jets no I do not care he offsets it with credits. Forget about John Doe, think of Jose Gonzalez in some South American shithole, guy makes less than $50 a week as a taxi driver in his own car, his catalytic converter breaks down and it costs $500 you think he's going to replace it? No way. I'm inviting everyone in this thread to step into the real world for a moment.
- ejb999 4y ago
  >>I do not care he offsets it with credits. Buying carbon offsets is the same as beating your wife every week and then donating money to a battered women's shelter to atone for your sins.
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by mrtksn 4y ago

npc54321 4y ago

I rarely argue online lately but I'll bite. I think similar to your friend. I'm anti-everything that pollutes even on a more instinctive level because my nose just can't handle gas odors / car exhaust etc I just hate it. You will never fix climate change without first fixing wealth inequality. Ain't no chance in hell John Doe will start biking to his workplace where he'll arrive drenched in sweat while he sees the CEO arriving in a private helicopter. Another example: Bill Gates being a climate change activist, a noble cause of course but the guy owns the largest fleet of private jets no I do not care he offsets it with credits. Forget about John Doe, think of Jose Gonzalez in some South American shithole, guy makes less than $50 a week as a taxi driver in his own car, his catalytic converter breaks down and it costs $500 you think he's going to replace it? No way. I'm inviting everyone in this thread to step into the real world for a moment.

ejb999 4y ago
>>I do not care he offsets it with credits. Buying carbon offsets is the same as beating your wife every week and then donating money to a battered women's shelter to atone for your sins.
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