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> - We only have one earth. It's _ours_ you know, not just yours. And our children's. And our children's children's..." This makes no sense as a response. Wate

> - We only have one earth. It's _ours_ you know, not just yours. And our children's. And our children's children's..." This makes no sense as a response. Water usage is a local issue where water goes through X rather than Y. Water usage in Pakistan has zero effect on Germany, unlike CO2 emmissions. If an entire river got diverted to lawns then the effects would only be between the divert point and the sea (in the form of the river nor being available for other people to divert from and animal life not having a river to live in) and even those effects are mostly temporary. Heck, lawn water mostly goes back in to the water table, with the rest evaporating to make clouds to then fall back as rain.

feet 4y ago
I understand the point you are making about areas that are far apart, but in some cases it really isn't local. The Colorado river is one good example.
HPsquared 4y ago
I suppose water (at least natural water from rivers) is one of the few actual zero-sum games in economics. No matter not hard you try, it won't rain more, and a given river only has so much water to give.
- concordDance 4y ago
  > No matter not hard you try, it won't rain more Cloud seeding is being studied.
  - bee_rider 4y ago
    That seems like it must be taking water from whoever is downwind (but maybe that's the ocean).
throw0101a 4y ago
> Water usage is a local issue where water goes through X rather than Y. Water usage in Pakistan has zero effect on Germany, unlike CO2 emmissions. Not entirely accurate: > The virtual water trade (also known as embedded or embodied water) is the hidden flow of water in food or other commodities that are traded from one place to another.[1] The virtual water trade is the idea that when goods and services are exchanged, so is virtual water. * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_water https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_water A concrete example from another comment: > With the Saudi Arabian landscape there being mostly desert and alfalfa being a water-intensive crop, growing it there has always been expensive and draining on scarce water resources, to the point that the Saudi government finally outlawed the practice in 2016. In the wake of the ban, Almarai decided to purchase land wherever it is cheap and has favorable water conditions to produce enough feed for its 93,000 cows. * https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/mar/25/california-water-drought-scarce-saudi-arabia https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/mar/25/california-w... * https://archive.ph/0gKrs https://archive.ph/0gKrs

feet 4y ago

I understand the point you are making about areas that are far apart, but in some cases it really isn't local. The Colorado river is one good example.

HPsquared 4y ago

I suppose water (at least natural water from rivers) is one of the few actual zero-sum games in economics. No matter not hard you try, it won't rain more, and a given river only has so much water to give.

concordDance 4y ago
> No matter not hard you try, it won't rain more Cloud seeding is being studied.
- bee_rider 4y ago
  That seems like it must be taking water from whoever is downwind (but maybe that's the ocean).

throw0101a 4y ago

> Water usage is a local issue where water goes through X rather than Y. Water usage in Pakistan has zero effect on Germany, unlike CO2 emmissions. Not entirely accurate: > The virtual water trade (also known as embedded or embodied water) is the hidden flow of water in food or other commodities that are traded from one place to another.[1] The virtual water trade is the idea that when goods and services are exchanged, so is virtual water. * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_water https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_water A concrete example from another comment: > With the Saudi Arabian landscape there being mostly desert and alfalfa being a water-intensive crop, growing it there has always been expensive and draining on scarce water resources, to the point that the Saudi government finally outlawed the practice in 2016. In the wake of the ban, Almarai decided to purchase land wherever it is cheap and has favorable water conditions to produce enough feed for its 93,000 cows. * https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/mar/25/california-water-drought-scarce-saudi-arabia https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/mar/25/california-w... * https://archive.ph/0gKrs https://archive.ph/0gKrs