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You're arguing for him. Those places do not go anywhere close to full renewable. Germany being one of your best examples has put out vaaastly more CO2 tha

You're arguing for him. Those places do not go anywhere close to full renewable. Germany being one of your best examples has put out vaaastly more CO2 than let's say France. This because it needs variable output to cover the variable output of it's renewables and as their share of the pie grows so do the costs of providing either storage or variable output. The strategy of our Greens in Belgium too was to build gas plants to cover for when the nuclear reactors were shut down like they always wanted. You may have noticed tho that gas has seen some changes in price and circumstances and a lot of people have started wondering why Greens are so eager to increase CO2 output.

nl 4y ago
> Germany being one of your best examples has put out vaaastly more CO2 than let's say France. Or look at Spain. 43% renewable power, less CO2 than France, and shutting down 4 out of 7 nuclear power stations by 2030. The solution to intermittent power is transmission lines, not nuclear. https://www.statkraft.com/newsroom/news-and-stories/archive/2021/country-series-green-ambitions-in-spain/ https://www.statkraft.com/newsroom/news-and-stories/archive/...
- modo_mario 4y ago
  Spain puts out more CO2 per capita than France and I don't expect it to improve as they reduce their nuclear capacity. Just like our plan to deal with that and boost renewables is big gas plants with long contracts and insane subsidies.
  - nl 4y ago
    > Spain puts out more CO2 per capita than France I mean yes, but only just[1]: Spain: 4.47 France: 4.27 Portugal by comparison is 3.96 with zero nuclear. > I don't expect it to improve as they reduce their nuclear capacity Well they do - see the projections in the plan I linked above. They are building a lot more capacity and transmission. [1] https://ourworldindata.org/co2-emissions https://ourworldindata.org/co2-emissions

nl 4y ago

> Germany being one of your best examples has put out vaaastly more CO2 than let's say France. Or look at Spain. 43% renewable power, less CO2 than France, and shutting down 4 out of 7 nuclear power stations by 2030. The solution to intermittent power is transmission lines, not nuclear. https://www.statkraft.com/newsroom/news-and-stories/archive/2021/country-series-green-ambitions-in-spain/ https://www.statkraft.com/newsroom/news-and-stories/archive/...

modo_mario 4y ago
Spain puts out more CO2 per capita than France and I don't expect it to improve as they reduce their nuclear capacity. Just like our plan to deal with that and boost renewables is big gas plants with long contracts and insane subsidies.
- nl 4y ago
  > Spain puts out more CO2 per capita than France I mean yes, but only just[1]: Spain: 4.47 France: 4.27 Portugal by comparison is 3.96 with zero nuclear. > I don't expect it to improve as they reduce their nuclear capacity Well they do - see the projections in the plan I linked above. They are building a lot more capacity and transmission. [1] https://ourworldindata.org/co2-emissions https://ourworldindata.org/co2-emissions