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These comments posting the guidelines and threatening bans would probably be more effective if they were applied with a high degree of even-handedness instead o
by codefreeordie 4y ago
These comments posting the guidelines and threatening bans would probably be more effective if they were applied with a high degree of even-handedness instead of as a relatively heavy weight on the scales of debate when the wrong opinions are voiced.
If it is within the bounds of legitimate debate to repeatedly assail everyone who disagrees with you as being racist, having no empathy, and wanting to murder homeless people, as the person this "flame" was responding to has done all over this thread, then it's definitely within the bounds of legitimate debate to ask the flame warrior to put their money where their mouth is, so to speak.
Or, taken the other way, if the comment that you replied to is ban-worthy abuse, then why have you not taken action against the much greater abuser which incited this fairly mildly flame-y response?
Personally, I'd rather have a flame-free open discussion board here, and as written, the guidelines do too, but allowing unlimited abuse from the pro-enforced-narrative viewpoint on any and every topic while posting ban threats like this in almost every thread where someone questions the enforced narrative is not the way to get there.
It does help provide public evidence of top-down narrative enforcement, which I suppose is vaguely useful, since it makes it harder for people to pretend that narrative enforcement isn't happening, but the actually open discussion, without narrative enforcement, would be better and, I believe, more in keeping with the guidelines.
The guidelines as written do not require adherence to the narrative nor do they offer immunity to posts in furtherance or support of the narrative anywhere that I can find.
Please moderate the narrative enforcers like you would non-adherents. That would make this site better and would be more in keeping with the guidelines, regardless of how correct the narrative is, or how correct you feel the narrative is.
- dang 4y agoI posted more or less identical moderation comments to people on all sides of the argument in this thread. In other words, you are creating the bias you're objecting to, simply by choosing which data points to emphasize. You could have picked an opposite one to reply to and made exactly the opposite claim with as much justification. It's extremely common for people to feel like the mods are against their side, when seeing a moderation comment they don't like. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sort=byDate&type=comment&query=%22always%20feels%22%20mods%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor...