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Germany does not do absymmally. It could actually do much better if not for the coal and nuclear lobby trying to slow down the move towards renewables over the

Germany does not do absymmally. It could actually do much better if not for the coal and nuclear lobby trying to slow down the move towards renewables over the last 20 years. Talking about the regulation argument which people bring up for nuclear. The amount of regulations needed to follow for wind are insane in Germany. Essentially even if you want to put a small (5-10kW) turbine in rural yard you have to become a mini electricity company. Let's not even talk about the Bavaria which have essentially killed off a wind due to regulations that requires huge distances to any dwelling.

qikInNdOutReply 4y ago
And that does not even cover the sabotage to storage installation. My brother got solar on the roof of his farm, but is not allowed to use it in the living building, because its a "seperate" household (50 m) away. This years winter, with not enough gas, these companies will cease to be and the state can put an end to those "cornered" market shenanigans.
shakow 4y ago
Germany definitely does do abysmally w.r.t. the money they invested: https://app.electricitymaps.com/map https://app.electricitymaps.com/map After billions over billions poured in wind & solar, they have roughly the same carbon-load on their electricity than US, Russia, or the Balkans.
- cycomanic 4y ago
  Are you color blind? Germany is definitely a lighter shade of brown than the US on average (you should really also use a 5 year not 30 day average), also the amount of "billions" that Germany poured into solar and wind is still significantly below the subsidies that coal received (for largely political reasons), likely as many or more subsidies were also poured into US fossils. It's amazing how all the nuclear proponents spend most of their time arguing against renewables, why is that? Maybe because it is to largely protect the large investments of electricity providers into large fossil and nuclear plants, while solar and wind disrupt these?
  - shakow 4y ago
    > Germany is definitely a lighter shade of brown than the US on average It is now that we are in the middle of the day and that solar starts to take over; it was not when I posted the chart this morning. > why is that? I don't argue against renewables, I argue against wrong arguments. Here is Germany average CO2/kWh, bottom 10 in Europe between Romania and Bulgaria, with an average of ~320gCO2/kWh: https://www.eea.europa.eu/ims/greenhouse-gas-emission-intensity-of-1 https://www.eea.europa.eu/ims/greenhouse-gas-emission-intens...

qikInNdOutReply 4y ago

And that does not even cover the sabotage to storage installation. My brother got solar on the roof of his farm, but is not allowed to use it in the living building, because its a "seperate" household (50 m) away. This years winter, with not enough gas, these companies will cease to be and the state can put an end to those "cornered" market shenanigans.

shakow 4y ago

Germany definitely does do abysmally w.r.t. the money they invested: https://app.electricitymaps.com/map https://app.electricitymaps.com/map After billions over billions poured in wind & solar, they have roughly the same carbon-load on their electricity than US, Russia, or the Balkans.

cycomanic 4y ago
Are you color blind? Germany is definitely a lighter shade of brown than the US on average (you should really also use a 5 year not 30 day average), also the amount of "billions" that Germany poured into solar and wind is still significantly below the subsidies that coal received (for largely political reasons), likely as many or more subsidies were also poured into US fossils. It's amazing how all the nuclear proponents spend most of their time arguing against renewables, why is that? Maybe because it is to largely protect the large investments of electricity providers into large fossil and nuclear plants, while solar and wind disrupt these?
- shakow 4y ago
  > Germany is definitely a lighter shade of brown than the US on average It is now that we are in the middle of the day and that solar starts to take over; it was not when I posted the chart this morning. > why is that? I don't argue against renewables, I argue against wrong arguments. Here is Germany average CO2/kWh, bottom 10 in Europe between Romania and Bulgaria, with an average of ~320gCO2/kWh: https://www.eea.europa.eu/ims/greenhouse-gas-emission-intensity-of-1 https://www.eea.europa.eu/ims/greenhouse-gas-emission-intens...