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Counterpoint: I grew up in the Midwest along the Kankakee river, and most infrastructure is built for flooding, as it can happen year round. Fresh water is not

Counterpoint: I grew up in the Midwest along the Kankakee river, and most infrastructure is built for flooding, as it can happen year round. Fresh water is not only abundant, there is often too much, and flooded fields and towns are a real problem. I am all for finding ways to move it west where people say they need it and are willing to pay a premium. Cities in the deserts of earth are more feasible than ever with ingenuity and engineering, and will probably always be much easier than building cities on Mars, for example.

SECProto 4y ago
> I am all for finding ways to move it west where people say they need it and are willing to pay a premium. Note that the premium amount they would be willing to pay is approximately $0.0017 per litre, delivered treated to their doorstep. [1] https://www.phoenix.gov/rates# https://www.phoenix.gov/rates# says ~$5/unit, with each unit being ~750 gallons, or ~2850 litres
- dr_dshiv 4y ago
  Gonna be inflation on that account
kevin_thibedeau 4y ago
The great lakes watershed can't be touched. In any case, the solution to floods in a flood plain is to not live in a flood plain or build elevated structures.
- dismalpedigree 4y ago
  Only because of a treaty. If there was monetary compensation for the water I think you would get the states and provinces on board in a hurry. I’d be more concerned about the insane water rights problems being shoved upstream to people in the great lakes basins. Telling me I can’t collect rain water to water my garden so somebody who lives in a dessert 2,000 miles away can be guaranteed the ability to water their lawn is insanity.
  - kevin_thibedeau 4y ago
    Rain barrels are legal in all states bordering the lakes. It isn't like you're stealing water that will disappear from the local environment. It's just a time delay.
    - dismalpedigree 4y ago
      I’m referring to the madness in the western state where more than 100% of the water is spoken for.

SECProto 4y ago

> I am all for finding ways to move it west where people say they need it and are willing to pay a premium. Note that the premium amount they would be willing to pay is approximately $0.0017 per litre, delivered treated to their doorstep. [1] https://www.phoenix.gov/rates# https://www.phoenix.gov/rates# says ~$5/unit, with each unit being ~750 gallons, or ~2850 litres

dr_dshiv 4y ago
Gonna be inflation on that account

kevin_thibedeau 4y ago

The great lakes watershed can't be touched. In any case, the solution to floods in a flood plain is to not live in a flood plain or build elevated structures.

dismalpedigree 4y ago
Only because of a treaty. If there was monetary compensation for the water I think you would get the states and provinces on board in a hurry. I’d be more concerned about the insane water rights problems being shoved upstream to people in the great lakes basins. Telling me I can’t collect rain water to water my garden so somebody who lives in a dessert 2,000 miles away can be guaranteed the ability to water their lawn is insanity.
- kevin_thibedeau 4y ago
  Rain barrels are legal in all states bordering the lakes. It isn't like you're stealing water that will disappear from the local environment. It's just a time delay.
  - dismalpedigree 4y ago
    I’m referring to the madness in the western state where more than 100% of the water is spoken for.