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Not at all. I am just pointing out that there is a lot of virtue signalling going on and very little problem solving. Don’t you agree that inviting a single hom

Not at all. I am just pointing out that there is a lot of virtue signalling going on and very little problem solving. Don’t you agree that inviting a single homeless person into your home or backyard will actually solve a real problem? Imagine if 30k people decided to do that? It would take 30k homeless people off the street! Just like that. So why don’t you go ahead and do that? Show leadership and inspire others? Be a hero!

ahelwer 4y ago
- mbrodersen 4y ago
  Yep you are absolutely right. People who spend money on things that doesn’t work but enables them to virtue signal is exactly what virtue signalling is. I gave you a real solution to the problem you can actually do (invite a homeless into your home/backyard) but you obviously don’t want to do it. Even though it would actually help a homeless person. Why not? Too smelly for you? Surely giving them access to a shower can fix that?
  - ahelwer 4y ago
    But it... does work? You know you don't have to personally completely solve a societal issue in order for your small individual contribution to the solution of that societal issue be worthwhile, right? Geez, this reminds me of how I used to think when I was a literal child. Just completely ignorant of the concept of universalization and collective action.
    - dang 4y ago
      Please see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32302338 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32302338 and don't post like this to HN again.
  - dang 4y ago
    Please see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32302351 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32302351 and don't post like this to HN again.
- dang 4y ago
  > You are not a serious person and bring nothing of value with you. Whoa - you can't post like that to HN, regardless of how wrong someone is or you feel they are. You posted flamewar comments in other parts of this thread and have now crossed into personal attack. That's seriously not ok and we ban accounts that do this. If you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules when posting here, we'd appreciate it. As a bonus, it will make your arguments more convincing because then you won't be discrediting them with flamebait and swipes.
  - ahelwer 4y ago
    - dang 4y ago
      Two points: Pointing the finger at others is not a good place to start with this. You broke the site guidelines egregiously and repeatedly, regardless of what other people did. Please fix this first, and then if you have a point or a question about moderation, I'd be happy to address it further. It's easy enough to see that we moderate comments that break the site guidelines whether they agree with any particular view or not (your side, the opposing side, or otherwise). There were several examples in this thread alone.
lamontcg 4y ago
> a lot of virtue signalling going the phrase "virtue signalling" is just "asshole signalling". if you want to reach anyone vaguely on the left end of the political spectrum they're not going to listen to much after you drop that phrase. but you will score point with people who already agree with you. which is a whole lot like the very thing that you're trying to criticize.

ahelwer 4y ago

mbrodersen 4y ago
Yep you are absolutely right. People who spend money on things that doesn’t work but enables them to virtue signal is exactly what virtue signalling is. I gave you a real solution to the problem you can actually do (invite a homeless into your home/backyard) but you obviously don’t want to do it. Even though it would actually help a homeless person. Why not? Too smelly for you? Surely giving them access to a shower can fix that?
- ahelwer 4y ago
  But it... does work? You know you don't have to personally completely solve a societal issue in order for your small individual contribution to the solution of that societal issue be worthwhile, right? Geez, this reminds me of how I used to think when I was a literal child. Just completely ignorant of the concept of universalization and collective action.
  - dang 4y ago
    Please see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32302338 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32302338 and don't post like this to HN again.
- dang 4y ago
  Please see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32302351 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32302351 and don't post like this to HN again.
dang 4y ago
> You are not a serious person and bring nothing of value with you. Whoa - you can't post like that to HN, regardless of how wrong someone is or you feel they are. You posted flamewar comments in other parts of this thread and have now crossed into personal attack. That's seriously not ok and we ban accounts that do this. If you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules when posting here, we'd appreciate it. As a bonus, it will make your arguments more convincing because then you won't be discrediting them with flamebait and swipes.
- ahelwer 4y ago
  - dang 4y ago
    Two points: Pointing the finger at others is not a good place to start with this. You broke the site guidelines egregiously and repeatedly, regardless of what other people did. Please fix this first, and then if you have a point or a question about moderation, I'd be happy to address it further. It's easy enough to see that we moderate comments that break the site guidelines whether they agree with any particular view or not (your side, the opposing side, or otherwise). There were several examples in this thread alone.

lamontcg 4y ago

> a lot of virtue signalling going the phrase "virtue signalling" is just "asshole signalling". if you want to reach anyone vaguely on the left end of the political spectrum they're not going to listen to much after you drop that phrase. but you will score point with people who already agree with you. which is a whole lot like the very thing that you're trying to criticize.